Ready for Windows 11 24H2

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Ready for Windows 11 24H2

Stardock Software is ready for the Windows 11 24H2 release

Microsoft announced today that the company has started rolling out the long-awaited Windows 11 update that introduces some new AI features. Like many of the previous second-half releases, this includes some fundamental changes to how Windows operates.

For the past few months, Stardock has been diligently evaluating our applications like Start11 v2 and Fences 5 to make sure that they are fully functional with these changes. You may have noticed that we have been shipping more updates recently, while not always directly related to 24H2, it was part of our effort to make sure that when the new Windows release hits your device, your applications are ready.

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And this includes Groupy 2 as well, which has one additional fix that addresses some text clarity when used in conjunction with File Explorer – you can find this new release in the beta channel.

Microsoft has an extensive post detailing what is new but many of the updates relate to new AI features detailed below:

Click to Do – Microsoft’s answer to “Circle to Search”, this feature is part of snipping tool that allows you to select items in an image or text and turn it into a search query, blur backgrounds, erase objects and extract text.
Recall – The controversial feature that makes it easier to find what was open on your desktop will start testing with ARM-based devices this month and Intel/AMD devices next month; Microsoft is also overhauling the security and storage of this feature.
Photos – A new “Super resolution” feature lets you upscale any image with the power of AI.

And there is a lot more to this release than AI tools including an improved security baseline and additional improvements to the update process. While the consumer features will grab all the headlines, it's these under-the-hood updates that will continue to improve the OS to be more resilient and reliable.

Our ability to make sure our applications are ready for new builds of Windows is thanks to our community. With 24H2, we frequently run our applications through various testing flows with each Insider release, but nothing truly beats the feedback we receive from readers like you. Many of the new additions to our applications are based directly from the feedback we receive, if you haven’t joined yet, you can find us on Discord and in our forums.

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Quoting DrJBHL,

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kwagraphics and LLkoskaa, could you run winver and post your machine stats? Also, I wouldn't reinstall SAB nor EP.

Have you rolled back 24H2?

Here it is again

Edition Windows 11 Pro

Version 24H2

Installed on ‎10/‎2/‎2024

OS build 26100.1882

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.23.0

I don't see any other info, in fact not as much info using winver.exe.

I have reinstalled SAB because I need a start menu I can actually use. I haven't reinstalled EP. Since it isn't helping with anything right now, I'm not going to.

And I posted a couple of screen shots from event viewer showing there is a problem. There are similar events for SAB if you need to see them.

I have not rolled back to 23h2. I still have a few days before I'm committed (maybe I should be committed) to using 24h2.

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Quoting basj,

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Quoting kwagraphics,

reply 18

I have the latest drivers. I'm very diligent about that. After every update I check for new drivers and I always back up the current drivers, just incase there's an issue and I need to go back to a previous version.

Thanks for your help.

Just a little fyi. I was using StartAllBack because there's a setting on the start menu screen, "use enhanced classic start menu", that I turned off. With Explorer Patcher I was able to use a Windows 10 style start menu. I've been happy with that.

But that doesn't work either after the 24h2 update. SAB does give me a windows 7 style start menu. I'm just not happy with it.

Just as a test, please try test it inside Windows Sandbox: https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#windowssandbox. Try it and report back.

Note: I just updated my Windows 11 24H2 (OS Build 26100.1882) and I still don't see the issue. As a reference, I am running without StartAllBack and ExplorerPatcher, for I don't really think these application compatible with Start11 as all of them change how Explorer/StartMenu/taskbar work.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Quoting basj,

reply 17

Quoting kwagraphics,

reply 16

I uninstalled Explorer Patcher. I installed Start11, rebooted and took this screen shot...

Something else might be blocking Start11, have you tried updating the drives as mentioned by Doc in reply#10?

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

I was looking through the thread and saw you requested I use sandbox. I didn't see that earlier. I've never used it before. I'm working on it.

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Quoting kwagraphics,

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I was looking through the thread and saw you requested I use sandbox. I didn't see that earlier. I've never used it before. I'm working on it.

Yes please test it in Sandbox and try not to install those other 3rd party software first.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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Quoting kwagraphics,

reply 27

Quoting basj,

reply 19

Okay, got sandbox set up and Start11 works with it. As does the way I had SAB and EP set up to give me a win 10 start menu.

I've beem racking my brain trying to figure out what could be causing this problem.

I use Power Toys just for finding the mouse. Not using any other feature from it.

I have Display Fusion but I don't let it modify the taskbar. I went through the settings and can't see anything that would be a problem. It doesn't do anything to the start menu. It does manage the lock screen image.

I do have WinAeroTweaker. I've uninstalled it and will have to reboot. I couldn't see any setting that would be causing an issue, but I'll find out after I reboot.

And sandbox was just so bad for my eyes. Since I can't activate it I can't change to the dark theme. I need eye surgery (can't have it till I turn 65 cause I can't pay for it) and all that bright white really caused me a lot of pain and I can't see squat now. But I digress. Time to reboot and see what happens.

Quoting kwagraphics,

reply 18

Just as a test, please try test it inside Windows Sandbox: https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#windowssandbox. Try it and report back.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

Quoting basj,

reply 17

Quoting kwagraphics,

reply 16

I uninstalled Explorer Patcher. I installed Start11, rebooted and took this screen shot...

Something else might be blocking Start11, have you tried updating the drives as mentioned by Doc in reply#10?

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

I was looking through the thread and saw you requested I use sandbox. I didn't see that earlier. I've never used it before. I'm working on it.

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Quoting kwagraphics,

reply 27

I was looking through the thread and saw you requested I use sandbox. I didn't see that earlier. I've never used it before. I'm working on it.

Yes please test it in Sandbox and try not to install those other 3rd party software first.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

I uninstalled WinAeroTweaker and rebooted, installed Start11 and it still doesn't work.

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Quoting kwagraphics,

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I uninstalled WinAeroTweaker and rebooted, installed Start11 and it still doesn't work.

What is your result when you test Start11 in Windows Sandbox?

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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Well I found a solution that got my old start menu back just the way I left it!

Some time ago (probably over a year ago) I tried WindHawk. I uninstalled it. It just seemed a bit much for me.

Well, I installed it and am using the Windows Start-Menu styler (for Windows 24h2) with Explorer Patcher set to use the Windows 10 start menu. Clicked on my start menu and it was there!

And there are a few settings in SAB that I like so I reinstalled it as well and turned off the "use enhanced classic start menu" so EP can give me the Windows 10 start menu.

I'm surprised this worked and that I figured it out. Why it's working is beyond me. I've never been so glad to see my start menu!

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Thank you for the info on how to upload images.

Going back to my issue after upgrading to Windows 11 Pro 24H2 where my start buttons are compressed in size, I am posting two images that demonstrate how the image is supposed to look, vs how it looks now.

Just FYI, I have tried this across the board regarding multiple WindowBlind themes from multiple creators, and over multiple years. All of the results are the same; the start buttons are compressed in size.

And since it was asked of others my OS and Build Number is Windows 11 Pro 24H2 OS Build:26100.1882

The first image is of my desktop currently. It shows the compressed start button. Compare how the start button appears to the second image which is taken from a preview of a WindowBlind theme made by Lightstar that was just released yesterday.

Compressed Start Button post 24H2 upgrade Start button appearing correctly pre 24H2 upgrade

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Quoting Digicoma,

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Thank you for the info on how to upload images.

Going back to my issue after upgrading to Windows 11 Pro 24H2 where my start buttons are compressed in size, I am posting two images that demonstrate how the image is supposed to look, vs how it looks now.

Just FYI, I have tried this across the board regarding multiple WindowBlind themes from multiple creators, and over multiple years. All of the results are the same; the start buttons are compressed in size.

And since it was asked of others my OS and Build Number is Windows 11 Pro 24H2 OS Build:26100.1882

The first image is of my desktop currently. It shows the compressed start button. Compare how the start button appears to the second image which is taken from a preview of a WindowBlind theme made by Lightstar that was just released yesterday.

I checked, but on my system the Start button look normal to me. I don't have the theme your tested on, so I can't do direct comparison, but, I tried "The Raven" by Vampothika, which have quite a big start button, and it look normal size to me on my Windows 11 v24h2. Refer screenshot below. Moving forward, it is best to create your own thread on this issue so that it don't get confuse with other posts. And we will try to help you from there.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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I haved rolled back ofc to 23H2 , since im only using your products and its not working start 11 with 24H2.

WINVER

Edición Windows 11 Pro

Versión 23H2

Instalado el ‎28/‎09/‎2022

Versión del sistema operativo 22631.4169

Experiencia Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22700.1034.0

MACHINE STATS

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Procesador AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor 4.20 GHz

RAM instalada 64,0 GB (63,6 GB usable)

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Id. del producto 00330-80000-00000-AA441

Tipo de sistema Sistema operativo de 64 bits, procesador basado en x64

Lápiz y entrada táctil La entrada táctil o manuscrita no está disponible para esta pantalla

DXDIAG ( WALL OF TEXT )

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System Information

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Time of this report: 10/5/2024, 10:47:40

Machine name: PCHABITACION

Machine Id: {1842AFFB-E0D2-46B4-A083-69C77046769C}

Operating System: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 22631) (22621.ni_release.220506-1250)

Language: Spanish (Regional Setting: Spanish)

System Manufacturer: ASRock

System Model: B650 PG Lightning

BIOS: 3.08 (type: UEFI)

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor (16 CPUs), ~4.2GHz

Memory: 65536MB RAM

Available OS Memory: 65112MB RAM

Page File: 13359MB used, 55848MB available

Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

DirectX Version: DirectX 12

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

User DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)

System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)

DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled

Miracast: Available, with HDCP

Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported

DirectX Database Version: 1.6.1

DxDiag Version: 10.00.22621.3527 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes

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Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Display Tab 2: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices

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Card name: AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX

Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x744C)

DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)

Device Type: Full Device (POST)

Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_744C&SUBSYS_2422148C&REV_C8

Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]

Device Problem Code: No Problem

Driver Problem Code: Unknown

Display Memory: 57048 MB

Dedicated Memory: 24492 MB

Shared Memory: 32555 MB

Current Mode: 2560 x 1440 (32 bit) (144Hz)

HDR Support: Supported

Display Topology: Extend

Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G22_NONE_P709

Color Primaries: Red(0.685547,0.308594), Green(0.264648,0.667969), Blue(0.150391,0.057617), White Point(0.313477,0.329102)

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Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_32BPP

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Hardware Scheduling: DriverSupportState:Stable Enabled:True

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Graphics Preemption: Primitive

Compute Preemption: Dispatch

Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver

Detachable GPU: No

Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported

Power P-states: Not Supported

Virtualization: Paravirtualization

Block List: DISABLE_HWSCH

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Component Drivers:

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Driver Version: Unknown

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Hello,

For all that have issue with Stardock Software product on Windows v24H2 recent update. It is best to create your own new thread so we can help your issue individually in those thread.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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I will.

What i posted is this helpful or not.

What more do you need to ask me.

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Quoting LLoskka,

reply 37

I will.

What i posted is this helpful or not.

What more do you need to ask me.

I have replied on your own thread.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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