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Start11 2.11 Release Feedback Thread

September 9, 2024 12:46:56 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

With the Start11 v2.11 release, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the product

Object Desktop members can get the release from within Object Desktop Manager 

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

For guest check-out purchase (no account), from this link: http://www.stardock.com/support/productkeyretrieval

Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 v2 a better product.

Sean Drohan
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Reply #1 September 9, 2024 12:49:57 PM
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Start11 v2.11 Changelog (Released 09/09/2024)

Date

09/09/2024

Version

  • UI: 2.11

  • Start11Config.exe: 2.1.1.0

Platforms

  • Stardock and Steam

Changes

  • Resolved high cpu usage issue seen on some machines

  • Resolved positioning of the seach box field when not using rounded taskbar settings

  • Reduced cpu overhead when taskbar is at the bottom of the screen.

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Reply #2 September 9, 2024 12:50:27 PM
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Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

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Reply #3 September 9, 2024 12:54:09 PM
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Reply #4 September 10, 2024 12:20:53 PM
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Any workaround for the Windows Terminal bug when using enhanced-taskbar ?

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Reply #5 September 10, 2024 9:21:07 PM
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Quoting emerson8,
reply 4

Any workaround for the Windows Terminal bug when using enhanced-taskbar ?

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But, might need more information on the "Windows Terminal bug". Please elaborate.

Thank you.
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Reply #6 September 10, 2024 10:21:30 PM
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Win+Number does not work as intended. Feels like something pinned there.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_n0JxoovZOIftWwspYLiBeb2RuAjru4X/view?usp=sharing

After enchasing when I am pressing Win+6 its opens explorer and when Win+7 its definitely opens something(look at cursor)

Then I did move some windows in the end and after that its shifted to Win+5 and Win+6

To show you which keys I was pressing i did use keyviz but its unrelated cuz I did download it only for this video specifically.

I did notice it first time I did purchase the program around 6 months ago but it was so unexplainable so I did move on. Now its usually stuck on Win+2 cuz I have only one item pinned and its annoying when I am trying to relate on hotkeys more.

Let me know if I can do something to help

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Reply #7 September 10, 2024 11:33:55 PM
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reply 6

Win+Number does not work as intended. Feels like something pinned there.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_n0JxoovZOIftWwspYLiBeb2RuAjru4X/view?usp=sharing

After enchasing when I am pressing Win+6 its opens explorer and when Win+7 its definitely opens something(look at cursor)

Then I did move some windows in the end and after that its shifted to Win+5 and Win+6

To show you which keys I was pressing i did use keyviz but its unrelated cuz I did download it only for this video specifically.

I did notice it first time I did purchase the program around 6 months ago but it was so unexplainable so I did move on. Now its usually stuck on Win+2 cuz I have only one item pinned and its annoying when I am trying to relate on hotkeys more.

Let me know if I can do something to help

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Need more information. Need to know Windows full version and OS Build number. Please use Winver.exe.

Thank you.
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Reply #8 September 11, 2024 1:28:44 AM
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Winver.exe

I had open Winver.exe on the videorecording for this purpose but I will duplicate just in case

 

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Reply #9 September 11, 2024 2:42:19 AM
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I had open Winver.exe on the videorecording for this purpose but I will duplicate just in case

But, I can't reproduce your issue. Refer video below.

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Reply #10 September 11, 2024 9:49:50 AM
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Quoting basj,
reply 5


Quoting emerson8,
reply 4

Any workaround for the Windows Terminal bug when using enhanced-taskbar ?



Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But, might need more information on the "Windows Terminal bug". Please elaborate.

Thank you.
Basj,
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It's like I reported in November/2023. With the current version I can pin Windows Terminal using Start11 and the correct icon is there, but when I click, it opens Windows Explorer, not Windows Terminal. This only happens when I enable enhanced taskbar. Now I have to use enhanced taskbar because the right-click (top taskbar) is not working without it, so I need to choose a bug.

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Reply #11 September 11, 2024 11:44:04 AM
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Quoting emerson8,
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It's like I reported in November/2023. With the current version I can pin Windows Terminal using Start11 and the correct icon is there, but when I click, it opens Windows Explorer, not Windows Terminal. This only happens when I enable enhanced taskbar. Now I have to use enhanced taskbar because the right-click (top taskbar) is not working without it, so I need to choose a bug

Not sure if you're talking different "Terminal" but I can pin it to taskbar and open it correctly with Start11 enhance taskbar turn on. Refer my short video below.

Thank you,

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Reply #12 September 11, 2024 12:23:26 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 11


Quoting emerson8,
reply 10

It's like I reported in November/2023. With the current version I can pin Windows Terminal using Start11 and the correct icon is there, but when I click, it opens Windows Explorer, not Windows Terminal. This only happens when I enable enhanced taskbar. Now I have to use enhanced taskbar because the right-click (top taskbar) is not working without it, so I need to choose a bug



Not sure if you're talking different "Terminal" but I can pin it to taskbar and open it correctly with Start11 enhance taskbar turn on. Refer my short video below.



Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

 

Same Windows Terminal. Look:

https://imgur.com/a/lHaVPr3

 

EDIT: I uninstalled and reinstalled Start11 and WindowsTerminal, and tested with another user in the same PC. Same problem. I will continue search for a reason for this problem. It's weird because only happens with enhanced taskbar.

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Reply #13 September 11, 2024 4:01:34 PM
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Having issues with secondary monitor top taskbar again with latest cumulative update on windows 11.  I have Enhanced Taskbar on and right clicking taskbar icons on the secondary monitor does not seem to function again.  Sometimes the right click menu appears at the bottom also for the main monitor.   

 

 

 

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Reply #14 September 11, 2024 6:03:51 PM
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So we would live to see the ability to change the Search Results Box on the taskbar with the same customization like the start menu 

as of now it's only possible to have Dark or Light Mode ( Black or White)

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Reply #15 September 11, 2024 6:11:29 PM
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So now the customization apply to the Taskbar and Startmenu but not to the searchbox which would be a big +

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Reply #16 September 11, 2024 8:10:45 PM
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Quoting emerson8,
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Same Windows Terminal. Look:

https://imgur.com/a/lHaVPr3

EDIT: I uninstalled and reinstalled Start11 and WindowsTerminal, and tested with another user in the same PC. Same problem. I will continue search for a reason for this problem. It's weird because only happens with enhanced taskbar

From your video look like you have your taskbar at the top with custom start button image, how you do that?

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Reply #17 September 12, 2024 12:02:17 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 16


Quoting emerson8,
reply 12

Same Windows Terminal. Look:

https://imgur.com/a/lHaVPr3

EDIT: I uninstalled and reinstalled Start11 and WindowsTerminal, and tested with another user in the same PC. Same problem. I will continue search for a reason for this problem. It's weird because only happens with enhanced taskbar



From your video look like you have your taskbar at the top with custom start button image, how you do that?

Thank you,

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I just set the button:



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Reply #18 September 12, 2024 8:10:09 PM
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I just set the button:

My mistake, yes, it can be done. I was looking at something else. Moving forward. Please try Cleanboot: https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#cleanboot.

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Reply #19 September 13, 2024 3:28:14 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 18


Quoting emerson8,
reply 17

I just set the button:



My mistake, yes, it can be done. I was looking at something else. Moving forward. Please try Cleanboot: https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#cleanboot.

Thank you,

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The cleanboot didn't help. But I fixed the problem deleting an old file named "Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe_App" in "AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar". Thank you for you help !

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Reply #20 September 13, 2024 4:07:08 PM
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Using Nilesoft Shell we need to access the windows 11 built-in right click on the taskbar how do we change the start11 to let us use the regular built-in win 11 Right-Click using shell 3rd party ?

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Reply #21 September 13, 2024 4:53:42 PM
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Using Nilesoft Shell we need to access the windows 11 built-in right click on the taskbar how do we change the start11 to let us use the regular built-in win 11 Right-Click using shell 3rd party ?

Windows Explorer provides all the challenges we can handle.  Support for 3rd party shells is not likely going to materialize. 

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Reply #22 September 13, 2024 5:30:37 PM
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The Nilesoft Shell works perfectly with Start11the only issue is context on the taskbar 

you addressed the start button issue with option to enable win+X which is default win 11 why can that just implemented anywhere on the taskbar 

please check the right click option in start11 taskbar settings 

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Reply #23 September 13, 2024 7:09:06 PM
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The Nilesoft Shell works perfectly with Start11the only issue is context on the taskbar 

you addressed the start button issue with option to enable win+X which is default win 11 why can that just implemented anywhere on the taskbar 

please check the right click option in start11 taskbar settings 

I am afraid due to how Nilesoft shell works we cannot support that for that particular situation.  We did look into it long ago but it wasn't possible to get them to detect our menus.

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Reply #24 September 14, 2024 5:43:10 AM
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Quoting emerson8,
reply 19


Quoting basj,
reply 18






Quoting emerson8,

reply 17


I just set the button:



My mistake, yes, it can be done. I was looking at something else. Moving forward. Please try Cleanboot: https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#cleanboot.

Thank you,

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The cleanboot didn't help. But I fixed the problem deleting an old file named "Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe_App" in "AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar". Thank you for you help !

 

Hey haad a similar issue with the menu showing the preview of a different pinned app to the one I was hovering over. Try disabling Satrt11 Taskbar make sure all pinned icons in default taskbar are matching to Start11 config and re-enable Start11 taskbar. See if this works.

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Reply #25 September 14, 2024 7:52:03 AM
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Quoting mtlinfotech,
reply 20

Using Nilesoft Shell we need to access the windows 11 built-in right click on the taskbar how do we change the start11 to let us use the regular built-in win 11 Right-Click using shell 3rd party ?

Try adding this string to the Registry at

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8

Name it:

S11_UseOldRightClickMenus

and set the Data Value to 1

Restart your computer to effect this change.

This was added by Support a while back to allow the use Win32 menus on right-click on the taskbar to allow third-party extension of the menu.

As always, create a Restore Point or back up the Registry before making any changes.

Please report back with the results.

EDIT: I see you reported at

https://forums.stardock.com/527567/page/1/#3943596

that this registry edit doesn’t work.

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