What's wrong with WS?

What's wrong with WS? It's not Oregon
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hey, you know your supposed to wrap that raskel ?

Computer Condoms, sillys

Kona, why arn't you "offline" already?

Why not Washington state?? Oregon I would understand due to roads that was designed by people that like to confuse people.

I think the problem is you have your computer on. turn it off and you should notice a remarkable less amount of cpu and memory usage.

Travis, you are sooooooo helpful.

Chas, I do not have double firewall/AV going. Of that I'm sure. I'm running NAV, not Norton Utilities. ZoneAlarm had been a problem for me in the past, but yrag helped me through it. I now have ZAP 4.0 installed, and it's working flawlessly. Hey yrag!!! Is it safe to upgrade to 4.5 yet?

I still haven't run Photoshop yet, and that will be the real test. It's just that it got to be too late last night, and now I gotta get ready for work. > This evening, I'll try to make sure it's all running smoothly.

And yes, I'm fairly sure the problem was/is OD. I tend to have my computer on constantly on weekends, so maybe the GDI's just keep climbing. I don't understand why turning the computer off the first 16 times didn't resolve the problem, though. I like OD. I don't want to have to dump it. I'll just monitor with TaskInfo. Right now, it's running at 80 GDI objects.

Thanks again, everyone. Especially Travis.

Chas....Zone Alarm is a firewall, NAV (Norton AntiVirus)is an AV. Where do you get he's running two AV's or two firewalls?

Like Duh, I didn't know that. I got it here smart a**. lol.

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"I going to shut down NAV(Norton Anti-Virus) and see how it runs. I had been using Kaspersky AV Pro(Another Anti-Virus) for a long time..."

It sounded to me like he was running two Anti-Virus programs and he was going to shut down one of them. I read the firewall stuff somewhere in his posts too. It sounded like he was running a lot of conflicting programs. He must have a large CPU and lots of memory, I say.

As noted earlier:

dabe - that's an on going problem with OD...several times a day you need to close and re-start it to keep the handle count down. It's an issue that they know about and hopefully will be resolved in the near future.

Is it safe to upgrade to 4.5 yet?

Yes...version 4.5.538. Un-check 'Load on Startup' in ZA preferences and re-boot. After the re-start, install the new version as an upgrade. http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/information/zap/releaseHistory.html

Thanks, yrag. I just upgraded ZA.

BTW, Chas. I'm not a "he".

Well Chas I looked at the Task Manager pic of running processes she posted when she was trying to get help. It good to check out the details when you're trying to help someone with their rig to avoid giving advice that's a tad off the mark.



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Sorry about the gender mis-identification milady. I do notice a lot of unneccesary processes and one that could be dangerous to computer attacks.

msmsgs.exe - I believe that is the microsoft messenger service which someone can use to send you unwanted popups. I use to get them all the time until I disabled it.

Icq.exe - this one is also unnecessary, and chews up system memory.

realsched.exe - this looks like a realplayer addition. They have been known to send info to the web. Sort of spyware.

qttask - another one that is troublesome to get rid of and unnecessary.

You can type msconfig in the run menu and go to the startup tab. Most of this stuff is actually loaded through your registry. Just take the check out of unneccessary programs to free up memory and protect privacy. Microsoft messenger is a little more difficult to get rid of. But, it can reek havok in outlook too. Then once you remove it, you still have to stop the service. Stopping the service is what will protect you. I hope this is useful.

msmsgs.exe is the Messenger IM program which is *not* the same as the messenger service. The messenger service is what allows messenger popup spam if one is not running a firewall to block the open port(s) used by the service. See the MS article on the messenger service which also includes instructions on how to disable it: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Simply having a firewall like ZA that blocks open ports (and also not allowing programs server rights on the internet unless the app absolutely won't work without internet server rights---since serving on the internet opens a port) blocks messenger service popup spam. But a lot of people who use NAT routers and firewalls still disable the messenger service to reduce unnecessary services and as a back up precaution.

As for Messenger (the Instant Messenger program) I disabled it within the program itself from running at start up and also within Outlook Express (so OE wouldn't start up MS Messenger) and it is now not shown in Task Mgr as a running process. Or look here for simple instructions to keep it from running at start up: http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php?filter=msmsgs&count=&type=

As for deciphering what programs relate to entries in the start up list or Task Mgr, this is a good site for reference: http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

A lot of people don't want a lot of programs running at start up that aren't necessary. Disabling unnecessary programs from running at start up reduces resource use and provides for a quicker start up. The unnecessary programs will still work fine when you want to use them, but they really do not need to begin running when you start up your PC. At any rate, if you want to trim the start up programs always look things up and check for the best way to disable them. It's best to use settings within the program itself if/when it has settings that allow disabling running at start up.
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Thank you again, everyone. Chas, no offense taken sir. I realize that most people who post here are "sir". Hmmmmmmm..... I wonder....... If people can have "sir" before their names, how bout milady? Hey, Stardock!!! How bout it? Nahhhh, never mind. I enjoy the anonymity.

Anyway, I ran msconfig, and unchecked some programs. Thank you for looking. That's why I posted my task manager. And, thanks for that site. I have to go to work now, and I'll get back to it later. I am still definitely having some hanging issues.

Icq.exe - this one is also unnecessary, and chews up system memory.

I don't know......... I find quite useful. ICQ doesn't seem to work well without it.

Koasati, I agree. I used ICQ quite frequently. Like everyday. Like all the time. It's how I connect with my family. I'm not losing that one.

Yeah, but if you're not even using the program, why do you need it chewing up resources? Unless, you keep it minimized to alert you when friends come online.

Gary's soooo smart!

well, duh you dont get to be a master apprentice by guessing.

Guess not...

BTW: that was a Journeyman that made that statement....and a lovely one at that

i stand uncorrected. i was talking about you yrag


Master Apprentice
Author: Gary Canfield
Nick: yrag
UserID: 22610

State: Pa
Country: US

I know you were talking about me....actually I guess a lot. The trick is that others don't know when I'm doing it

AH-HA! caught you in the act!!!

Yeah, but if you're not even using the program, why do you need it chewing up resources? Unless, you keep it minimized to alert you when friends come online.

Chas....that's the whole idea of the proggy...

Well, the verdict is in. My computer is running smoothly. Or, at least as smooth as possible given that it's only a 1.2mhz processor, 512 mb RAM. But, I don't have the money to upgrade, so I continue to push this sucker to the limit. Photoshop is kind of a limit for it. And, it's RUNNING!!!! Color me I just shut down ObjectDock. I give up. As much as I like the program, my system just cannot handle it. So DX is the way to go for me. And, of course WB and Sysmetrix.

What I learned here will give me the tools to repeat all this the next time it hangs. And, there *will* be a next time. Of that, I'm sure.

And, as Jafo pointed out, ICQ is supposed to alert when friends/family come online. That IS the point. And, sometimes I'm willing to sacrifice resources for a program's intended function. If I wasn't, I wouldn't bother with Wincustomize, Stardock, Rainlender, etc.

Now, allow my random thoughts to roam..
1 - Have you changed video drivers recently? If you installed the MS NVIDIA driver - replace it with Nvida's detonator driver, but ONLY if you have an NVIDA chipset card.

2 - Is it possible the video adapter is on the fritz?

Enough outta me...

Phoon, I did update my nvidia driver a few weeks ago. And PERISH THE THOUGHT of my video card going on the fritz. I can't afford it right now.

But, I suppose if it did putz out on me, I'd just have to replace it with something better, wouldn't I? I should just stop dreaming. I *can't* afford it.