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Groupy 2.15 Beta \ Object Desktop Insider Released

February 19, 2024 4:42:00 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

We have changed how betas and early releases will be managed and displayed on your account and in Object Desktop Manager.  While some releases will be tagged 'beta' as you have traditionally seen, some now will be in a new 'Object Desktop Insider' section, and lastly, sometimes the same version will appear in both. 

Why the change?

This new separation allows us flexibility for offering items explicitly for Object Desktop members.

Does this mean we will not see beta's as frequently?

Absolutely not.  Timely updates to our products will still flow and follow the beta release cadence our clients are used to. 

Why would the same version show up as beta and under Insider?

This would be so clients that do not have Object Desktop also have access to an early release should we want all product owners to have it. 

With that out of the way, Groupy 2.15 has been released to Beta and Object Desktop Insider today. 

Obtaining Object Desktop Insider Builds

Object Desktop Manager

Object Desktop members can get beta and Insider builds from within Object Desktop Manager with 'Enable Object Desktop Insider builds' enabled:

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Stardock Download Page

Or via their download page in the ‘Object Desktop Insider’ section

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Obtaining Beta Releases

Stardock.com

If a beta was released, Object Desktop Members would see it in the ‘Object Desktop’ section.

Individual purchases would see it on their registration of the product under their download page.

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Steam

  • Right-click the Product in Steam

  • Properties

  • Betas

  • Select the beta branch at the top right (there is no password)

Example

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Reporting an issue

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)

  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen

  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive service (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube), with a shared link included in your post.  Images can be copied and pasted directly into a post.

  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Groupy 2 a better product.

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Reply #1 February 19, 2024 4:59:11 PM
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Groupy 2.15 Changelog (Released 03/21/2024)

03/21/2024

General release

Version

  • UI: 2.15

  • GroupyConfig.exe: 2.1.5.3

Platforms

  • Stardock

  • Steam

Changes

  • Resolves mouse wheel scrolling config app pages accidentally scrolling combo boxes when the mouse ends up over one of them.

03/15/2024

Version

  • UI: 2.15

  • GroupyConfig.exe: 2.1.5.2

Platforms

  • Stardock: Beta and Object Desktop Insider

  • Steam

Changes

  • Resolves the do not paint a tab for groups with a single tab also impacting integrated explorer and Notepad tabs

  • Resolved the issue of not being able to drag auto-grouped windows out of groups

  • Tweaked group joining to factor in the current virtual desktop more for auto-grouping

  • Tweak for detecting support for integrated tabs in Explorer on Win11

Languages

  • Japanese now included. Credit (and much thanks): DiGS-O5

02/23/2024

Version

  • UI: 2.15

  • GroupyConfig.exe: 2.1.5.1

Platforms

  • Stardock: Beta and Object Desktop Insider

  • Steam

Changes

  • Corrected missing line on the edge of Windows Explorer windows on Win11 when not replacing OS tabs possibly due to modification of the OS to remove the native OS tabs

  • Resolved positioning of non-rounded tabs in integrated mode when Groupy icon hidden on the bar
    Added registry key to make tabs less rounded G2_LessRounded = "1" (in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\Groupy\Groupy.ini\Groupy)

  • Added registry key to make tab bar less rounded G2_LessRoundedBar = "1" (in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\Groupy\Groupy.ini\Groupy)

  • Resolved issue with custom rules causing windows to not remain maximized when the first window as maximized

  • Resolved issue with custom groups combining the windows in the wrong order and so making a new window override the position of the original rather than merging with the original

  • Detects if the user has client area animations disabled and if so disables the Groupy tab animations.  G2_ForceNoAnimsOnTabs = "1" would also force this

  • Resolved issue with auto group option not working correctly

  • Stopped extra separator line showing on left of titlebar when do not show the groupy icon on the left mode is enabled

  • Added UI options to force groupy tab animation to off and to hide line under tabs when in integrated mode if wanted

  • Reduced strength of line under tabs in integrated mode when in dark mode

Language Updates

  • en.lng has been updated with 2 new strings. Supported languages have been updated in-app and on GitHub

02/19/2024

Changes

  • ARM64 support added. This is only currently available to Object Desktop members. It will make it to a general release in future updates.

  • Resolved issue with delayed detection of explorer tabs causing new explorer tabbed windows to jump up and down briefly

  • Resolved SwifDoo PDF reader having gap above and below window when maximized

  • Resolved PDF-XChange having overlap on titlebar incorrectly when maximized
    Resolved Steam having overlap on titlebar incorrectly when maximized

  • Modified saving colors per app so it factors in path as well for duplicate names

  • Added option to force alternative maximize mode when an application is being overlapped slightly

  • Added option on ungrouped Groupy bar to disable this for the given app

  • Added support for Facebook Messenger to be dragged into groups

  • Resolved New explorer tabs should open in the same folder UI option not appearing to save (it did, the UI just didn't reflect the value)

  • Added support for auto grouping New MS Teams for Work client chat windows

  • Resolved issue with opening maximized windows in New MS Teams / VSCode and then appearing non-maximized

  • Worked around an issue with new MS teams for Work client and crashing when closing a child window

  • Non-grouped window tabbed bar will auto close 2 seconds after the last mouse movement to ease use if it is on top of other things you want access to.  The previous behaviour can be obtained by setting G2_DoNotAutoCloseBar = "1" in the registry (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Groupy\Groupy.ini\Groupy)

  • Fixed resource leak on saving new group icon

Language Updates 

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Reply #2 February 19, 2024 5:00:17 PM
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Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

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Reply #3 February 19, 2024 5:00:51 PM
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Reply #4 February 19, 2024 8:23:43 PM
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Hi

I still encounter the same issue, huge transparent space.

 

The worst thing is, it does not auto-group the same applications in this version, I need to set the rule manually.

 

Of course, I uninstalled and rebooted again to install version 2.15.

 

FYR. 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

I use Win11 enterprise version.

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Reply #5 February 19, 2024 10:32:33 PM
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Can someone explain to me why i can never seem to get OD past 4.01. I obviously do not have that option i keep downloading from my downloads page but always end up with 4.0

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Reply #6 February 19, 2024 10:42:23 PM
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Sadly I still have the same issues with the drop target display. Is it possible to get an option to disable it entirely?

I tried to group a window and then after 8 minutes took this screenshot. 4 minutes later it disappeared. Notice groupy CPU usage. it gets as high as 37%

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Reply #7 February 20, 2024 5:09:45 AM
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Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 6

Sadly I still have the same issues with the drop target display. Is it possible to get an option to disable it entirely?

I tried to group a window and then after 8 minutes took this screenshot. 4 minutes later it disappeared. Notice groupy CPU usage. it gets as high as 37%


Unfortunately this seems likely to be some other app conflicting with Groupy and we have had no success in reproducing it.

Disabling the overlay is unlikely to resolve the issue.

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Reply #8 February 20, 2024 5:13:17 AM
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Quoting figer.wang4583,
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Hi

I still encounter the same issue, huge transparent space. 

The worst thing is, it does not auto-group the same applications in this version, I need to set the rule manually. 

Of course, I uninstalled and rebooted again to install version 2.15. 

FYR. 
Thanks.  



I use Win11 enterprise version.


Do you have any other utilities running which might interfere with window positioning?

Whilst we were able to reproduce this with 2.12, this is not reproducible with 2.15 suggesting there is something we are missing here.  How are you opening the new windows?  Also are the windows originally maximized and then it jumps to that smaller size?

The autogrouping issue does repro and we will investigate that.

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Reply #9 February 20, 2024 6:17:34 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 7


Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 6

Sadly I still have the same issues with the drop target display. Is it possible to get an option to disable it entirely?

I tried to group a window and then after 8 minutes took this screenshot. 4 minutes later it disappeared. Notice groupy CPU usage. it gets as high as 37%



Unfortunately this seems likely to be some other app conflicting with Groupy and we have had no success in reproducing it.

Disabling the overlay is unlikely to resolve the issue.

Ok 

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Reply #10 February 20, 2024 9:25:46 AM
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After updating from 2.12 to 2.15, Explorer quit grouping opened windows even though it was set to "Automatically group all 'explorer.exe' windows together." I had to roll back to 2.12 and it started working again. I don't know if it has something to do with changes you made to how Groupy 2.15 controls Explorer. I tried ticking "Automatically group all 'explorer.exe' windows together" to off, rebooting, and ticking it back on which did not fix it.

I will reinstall 2.15 later today and test to see if it still will not group.

EDIT: I redownloaded the 2.15 installer and then installed.

Groupy 2.15 still not grouping Explorer or Notepad windows. However, if "Group newly opened windows when the CTRL key is held down whilst opening the new window" is checked, Explorer and Notepad windows group when the Ctrl key is held down.

Let me know if there is anything else you want me to try.

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Reply #11 February 20, 2024 12:35:38 PM
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Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 5

Can someone explain to me why i can never seem to get OD past 4.01. I obviously do not have that option i keep downloading from my downloads page but always end up with 4.0

Buttons were pushed today that should have it updated for all now (there were conditions on a prior, but later than 4.01, version).  If you exit ODM, and reopen, it should update. 

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Reply #12 February 20, 2024 5:12:36 PM
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Quoting sdrohan,
reply 11


Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 5

Can someone explain to me why i can never seem to get OD past 4.01. I obviously do not have that option i keep downloading from my downloads page but always end up with 4.0



Buttons were pushed today that should have it updated for all now (there were conditions on a prior, but later than 4.01, version).  If you exit ODM, and reopen, it should update. 

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

 

I seem to still not be getting it. I'll leave it for a bit and see what happens

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Reply #13 February 20, 2024 7:40:51 PM
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Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
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I seem to still not be getting it. I'll leave it for a bit and see what happens

Hello,

I just downloaded it and I get the same file name but its a different file. I installed it and I get ODM v4.04.

Thank you,

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Reply #14 February 20, 2024 7:57:53 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 13


Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 12

I seem to still not be getting it. I'll leave it for a bit and see what happens



Hello,

I just downloaded it and I get the same file name but its a different file. I installed it and I get ODM v4.04.



Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

I don't Still ver 4.01 Not a big deal. 

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Reply #15 February 20, 2024 7:58:24 PM
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I also install Start 11.

 

The window size always uses the default in each application, not specific to maximize or any size.

 

But if I try to change the setting from default to maximized in VS Code, the transparent case will disappear.

 

It confuses me why over 2 tabs will cause this case when using the default setting.

 

And open incognito still blocks the browser part, FYR.

 

 

Thank you for your prompt support.

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Reply #16 February 20, 2024 8:01:33 PM
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I don't Still ver 4.01 Not a big deal.

You downloaded, what is the file size for the latest "objectdesktop_setup.exe"?

The new 4.04 will look something like this. New section for insider/beta released.

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Reply #17 February 20, 2024 8:05:07 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 16


Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 14

I don't Still ver 4.01 Not a big deal.



You downloaded, what is the file size for the latest "objectdesktop_setup.exe"?

The new 4.04 will look something like this. New section for insider/beta released.



Thank you,

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5,674Kb About reports ver 4.01

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Reply #18 February 20, 2024 8:09:46 PM
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5,674Kb About reports ver 4.01

You download directly via your account product page?

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Reply #19 February 20, 2024 8:11:38 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 18


Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 17

5,674Kb About reports ver 4.01



You download directly via your account product page?

Thank you,

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yes. i mean i dont know of any other way to get it. is there?

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Reply #20 February 20, 2024 8:15:37 PM
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Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
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yes. i mean i dont know of any other way to get it. is there?

Not sure, update within from ODM itself maybe. I asked because that might be the issue. Clearly it is not.

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Reply #21 February 20, 2024 8:44:00 PM
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Quoting basj,
reply 20


Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
reply 19

yes. i mean i dont know of any other way to get it. is there?



Not sure, update within from ODM itself maybe. I asked because that might be the issue. Clearly it is not.

Thank you,

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well i would but there doesn't seem to be a "Check for update" option. Only a timed one which did nothing when the time arrived. TBH I dont use ODM all that much anyway. I just thought it odd that I could never get anything past 4.01 this entire time. 

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Reply #22 February 20, 2024 10:23:04 PM
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Quoting Narusegawa Naru,
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well i would but there doesn't seem to be a "Check for update" option. Only a timed one which did nothing when the time arrived. TBH I dont use ODM all that much anyway. I just thought it odd that I could never get anything past 4.01 this entire time.

Just as a suggestion, try another browser or try download from another system.

Thank you,

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Reply #23 February 22, 2024 9:36:15 AM
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Separation line still not fixed in Windows 11 Version 23H2 build 22631.3155 

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Reply #24 February 23, 2024 10:18:28 AM
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All,

The Groupy beta has been updated to 2.1.5.1.  For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/526148/get;3921572

As always, thank you for your time, feedback, and support.

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Reply #25 February 23, 2024 11:21:13 AM
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I don't know where and how to express just how much happy it made me when the line was gone, thank you!!!

Awesome update!

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