Start11 2.03 Release Issue Report Thread

Start11 2.03 Changelog (Released 11/21/2023)

11/21/2023

Released to live.

11/20/2023

Version updated:
UI 2.03
Start11Config.exe 2.0.3.0
Initial language localization pass included. Please click here for more details.
Resolved a possible crash when combining two groups as a tab group if no other tab groups exist
Resolved issue 2.02 beta introduced with a crash when the icon cache changed on Win10
Resolved issue where a Fence as a group would not save the number of rows it should show correctly
Resolved an issue with an icon cache flush causing wrong icons to show in the UI sometimes
Added registry key "S11_PutUniversalAppsInFolderByDefault" which when given a value of "1" will put universal apps in a Universal apps folder in the Win10/11/Pro/Launcher/App menus. Create in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8
Added registry key "S11_NoMenuAnimations" which when given a value of "1" which will turn off right click menu animations. Create in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8
Some tweaks to enhanced taskbar to prevent apps from sending too many messages to the taskbar causing it to slow down
Recently installed now correctly shows Universal apps installed from the store
Recently installed apps (Win10/11/Pro/App/Launcher) menus now only show items as 'recent' within 1.5 days of install
Recent items popup menus now filter out some additional items

11/17/2023

Start11 Config version updated to 2.0.2.0 (2.02 in UI)
Resolved issue with global font scaling in Start11 being deactivated briefly when opening right-click menus
Added detection for Fences 5 installs when Fences 4 had not been installed before
Resolved issue with Fences 5 show desktop button on the taskbar not working with Enhanced taskbar enabled
Resolved taskbar icon changes not always being picked up correctly by Start11 with Enhanced taskbar enabled
Resolved missing icons on the Start10 style search
Added everything support to Start10 style search mode
Resolved issue with shutdown and signout menus in Win10 style sometimes losing focus to what is under them
Resolved the issue of having too many items in a folder resulting in being unable to see all of the items. It will now scroll them instead.
Resolved autohide taskbar showing up on secondary when start menu open on the primary
Resolved an issue with the taskbar opening from autohide too early if the taskbar was offset from the bottom of the screen in some situations
Resolved issue with multiple column menus showing at the top of the screen sometimes
Resolved issue with right-clicking on recent documents link and picking open causing an error prompt about a missing user account
Menus with multiple columns now show A-Z per column rather than spreading A-Z over each column
Added registry key "S11_DelayAutoHide" which when given a value of "1" will delay autohide show/hide. Create in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8

11/13/2023

Start11Config.exe 2.0.1.1 (2.01 in UI)
Resolved a crash issue with Win7 style on login in rare circumstances
Resolved an issue with enhanced taskbar autohide when the primary monitor is to the right of the secondary monitor with desktop icon placement
Resolved issue with clicking on pinned taskbar buttons set to only show on certain monitors not showing a right-click menu
Resolved issue with mixed dpi setups where right-click menus may not detect dpi changes consistently
Resolve the issue with offset taskbar mode with autohide on a secondary.
Limited recent docs popup menu to 15 items (or OS setting if defined)
Reduced a flicker when minimizing/restoring a window from the taskbar using the mouse
Adjusted some init code to prevent threads from being allocated earlier than needed
Tweak to extra control panel item showing
Resolved issue with rounded taskbar causing clipped taskbars on primary monitor when using a touch-capable device with Win11 22H2 or later
Resolved issue with taskbar offsets on secondary monitor without enhanced taskbar enabled not working correctly
Tweaked shutdown menu to stop list under it taking focus sometimes
Added registry key S11_AlwaysScrollMenus which when set to 1 will stop Start11 making menus multi column and instead use a scrolling list. Create in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8
Resolved issue with Win7/Modern style jumplists sometimes showing each item too small after switching menu modes
Added a new registry key to control the right-click menu style on Windows 11. It is called "S11_MenuStyle" and it has 3 options. 0 = translucent menus, 1 = solid menus, 2 = colour tinted translucent menus
Resolved all apps/steam apps list not working from a pinned taskbar folder if you are using the Win7/Modern menu styles
Resolved issue with sub menus showing far left of the screen when they would not fit next to the open menu on multi-column menus
Resolved issue with new Start11 autohide taskbar mode triggering too far from the bottom of the screen vs the primary
Resolved issue with Win 7/modern menu with Win10 style all apps tree not having Show Recently installed and suggested apps not refreshing the list instantly
Resolved issue with right-hand list on start menu flickering over search results during animation to switch to search mode sometimes with Win 7/modern menu styles
Resolved issue with leftover tooltip after launching an app from the menu if the tooltip was visible at the time
Altered config UI to grey out the settings for rounded taskbars unless the rounded taskbar is enabled as this may be causing confusion
Resolved menus sometimes being the wrong background color depending on OS color settings
Resolved sub-menus showing on popup folder menus being shifted too far right on Win11 setups
Resolved Win Launcher menu style when hiding search and username causing shutdown to overlap contents of the list

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Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

The Fences 5 toggle for Peek on the taskbar may not present the correct icon with the enhanced taskbar turned on. To resolve the issue, turn off the enhanced taskbar, select the icon you would like to use, and then re-eneable enhanced taskbar

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Thanks to all the Stardock team for their relentless attention to the New Start11v2; making it one of the best yet!

To all that celebrate Thanksgiving, I wish you a happy holiday with friends and family. To all those that don't, I wish you a great week full of joy and happiness.

Thanks again to Sean, Neil, and basj for their tireless help!

pelaird

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Quoting pelaird,

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Thanks to all the Stardock team for their relentless attention to the New Start11v2; making it one of the best yet!

To all that celebrate Thanksgiving, I wish you a happy holiday with friends and family. To all those that don't, I wish you a great week full of joy and happiness.

Thanks again to Sean, Neil, and basj for their tireless help!

pelaird

I think everyone appreciate what you do around here too, pelaird! So, thank you for that!

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Quoting pelaird,

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Thanks to all the Stardock team for their relentless attention to the New Start11v2; making it one of the best yet!

To all that celebrate Thanksgiving, I wish you a happy holiday with friends and family. To all those that don't, I wish you a great week full of joy and happiness.

Thanks again to Sean, Neil, and basj for their tireless help!

pelaird

Thank you for the kind words, Pelaird, truly...

Have a great holiday, guys.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

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Quoting pelaird,

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Thanks to all the Stardock team for their relentless attention to the New Start11v2; making it one of the best yet!

To all that celebrate Thanksgiving, I wish you a happy holiday with friends and family. To all those that don't, I wish you a great week full of joy and happiness.

Thanks again to Sean, Neil, and basj for their tireless help!

pelaird

I agree and truly hope that start 11 v2 is very successful for Stardock. This piece of software very well could be Neil and his teams masterpiece. It is that good!

I hope everyone has a good holiday as well

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Hi everyone! Has anyone else found that when using Start11 and using Outlook (m365), clicking a pinned Outlook icon on the taskbar starts another instance of Outlook rather than maximizing the Outlook window?

I have two machines that are running Windows 11 and it only happens on one of them. (As soon as I uninstall Start 11, Outlook behaves just fine.)

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!!!

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Quoting dcomo1,

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Hi everyone! Has anyone else found that when using Start11 and using Outlook (m365), clicking a pinned Outlook icon on the taskbar starts another instance of Outlook rather than maximizing the Outlook window?

I have two machines that are running Windows 11 and it only happens on one of them. (As soon as I uninstall Start 11, Outlook behaves just fine.)

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!!!

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. I can't reproduce your issue on my system. More details on system having the issue please. Also provide a video showing us the issue. It will help us to understand it better. Please refer here for more details : https://support.stardock.com/space/SHC/1387003915/Contacting+Stardock+About+Start+Product+Issues

Thanks
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

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Hi, Sean - thanks for your and Stardock's work on this version. But there's a problem.

I don't see the registry entry "S11_PutUniversalAppsInFolderByDefault" anywhere. It's gone.

See below cropped screenshot. It helps support my assertion that I don't see it on my end.

Can you kindly help? And yes, this is version 2.0.3.0 - I downloaded it today. Thanks.

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Hello Omnimaxus,

You actually need to create those yourself for them to work

On all the reg edits you see listed. You should create a new "string value" and give it the name listed which in your case is S11_PutUniversalAppsInFolderByDefault

After you create it yourself you can then edit its value to 1 to turn it on or 0 to turn it off

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Quoting dcomo1,

reply 8

Hi everyone! Has anyone else found that when using Start11 and using Outlook (m365), clicking a pinned Outlook icon on the taskbar starts another instance of Outlook rather than maximizing the Outlook window?

I have two machines that are running Windows 11 and it only happens on one of them. (As soon as I uninstall Start 11, Outlook behaves just fine.)

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!!!

To test your issue, I pinned Outlook (MS 365 desktop) to my taskbar by right clicking Outlook in the All apps list, selecting More, and then Pin to taskbar. Now if I click the pinned Outlook icon, Outlook opens. Clicking it again minimizes Outlook to the taskbar, and then clicking again restores it. Click minimize; click restore; click minimize; click restore.

However, if I open the Start11 menu and click Outlook, which is pinned to my start menu, a second instance of Outlook opens.

I'm running the following:

Windows 11 Pro - 22635.2771; Start11 - 2.0.3.0 (Windows 10 Style); MS 365 - 2312-17116.20002 (Windows and MS 365 are both Insider Beta editions).

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Quoting PhoenixRising1,

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Hello Omnimaxus,

You actually need to create those yourself for them to work

On all the reg edits you see listed. You should create a new "string value" and give it the name listed which in your case is S11_PutUniversalAppsInFolderByDefault

After you create it yourself you can then edit its value to 1 to turn it on or 0 to turn it off

Got it. Missed the part in the first post by Sean about "create." Thanks.

However - the folder reads, "Universal applications." Not "Universal Applications."

Need to capitalize the first letter of the word "applications." Helps with UI consistency.

This should be done for the next version update. Will Stardock do this? Thanks again.

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I'm guessing no arm64 support? I tried to use the trial version but I have no idea why it closes when I click no for uninstalling it.

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Quoting SFonseca85,

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I'm guessing no arm64 support? I tried to use the trial version but I have no idea why it closes when I click no for uninstalling it.

Yes, Start11 and, from what I know, all Stardock Software product don't work on ARM based system.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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Hi, I'm new to the forum, I purchased your program a few days ago and I was truly amazed, congratulations to the creators.
I wanted to propose some questions

- I set the transparency of the bar to 0 but the start menu remained unchanged, is it possible to make the start menu transparent too?

- Is it possible to hide the start bar automatically when a program goes into full screen? I used to use the hide bar option on Windows but I got tired of this option as the bar went up and down.

- Is it possible through the start11 program itself to change the icons on the Windows bar? this option would be very nice, there is a section to change the start button but there is no possibility of changing the program icons easily and simply without going through windows.

last question (sorry for too many questions)

- As we all know there are also free programs to change the start, and in the past I had installed one of these before moving on to your fantastic program, but I found one that works on other programs which here there is no possibility of setting beyond the start also a customization of the Windows folders which hid for example the address bar all the options at the top of the address bar, it would be nice to have a complete program, given that free programs have these options why shouldn't a program like this one which is 100 times better than all.

Thank you

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Quoting Aida66,

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- I set the transparency of the bar to 0 but the start menu remained unchanged, is it possible to make the start menu transparent too?

Yes, it is in a separate section [start menu] > [customize visual appearance] > [adjust menu transparency]

Quoting Aida66,

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- Is it possible to hide the start bar automatically when a program goes into full screen? I used to use the hide bar option on Windows but I got tired of this option as the bar went up and down.

- Is it possible through the start11 program itself to change the icons on the Windows bar? this option would be very nice, there is a section to change the start button but there is no possibility of changing the program icons easily and simply without going through windows.

These could be considered feature requests. Neil and his team do take requests into consideration in future updates

Quoting Aida66,

reply 16

- As we all know there are also free programs to change the start, and in the past I had installed one of these before moving on to your fantastic program, but I found one that works on other programs which here there is no possibility of setting beyond the start also a customization of the Windows folders which hid for example the address bar all the options at the top of the address bar, it would be nice to have a complete program, given that free programs have these options why shouldn't a program like this one which is 100 times better than all.

I am not 100 percent what you are asking here but it sounds like you are wanting to customize the explorer menu. While start 11v2 is not meant to make changes here there are alternatives to make this happen such as using explorerpatcher in addition to start 11v2. In addition, I believe that Neil has stated that he is working on making start 11v2 more compatible with other alternative software that also change the explorer such as startallback which I am very interested to see progress.

If you are looking at github, it is hard to know what start menu you are talking about and what it does exactly because a lot of that progress is pretty new.

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Minor issue, but the "Standard Locations" links to specific folders do not use my default file handler. They force it through Explorer, which I have replaced as the default file handler with OneCommander. Downloads appears to be an exception to this rule.

Adding links manually to my folder paths allows them to work, but each link uses the default folder icon rather than the icons specific to each user folder like Pictures and Videos. I am not sure where Start11's icons are pulled from, but I was not able to manually set the icons to the icons that come with the program. I found similar ones online to use instead.

Other than this, v2 has been a huge improvement. You guys knocked it out of the park with this one.

23H2 22631.2715

Start11 2.0.0.6

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Win 11 23H2 22631.2715

Start 11 v2.03

Android apps installed via WSA will launch fine from the start menu, but not from a group/tab. Neither do Icons display when added to a group/tab

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With Groupy 2, we can change the App language inside Groupy's settings.
Now that translations are updated for Start11 v2, please add the same option.

That would be much more convenient than having to rename .lng files.

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❌Unfortunately, when saving the settings, the pinned apps, icon settings and positions/groups are not saved. This was actually the reason why I bought v2. Is this still intended, or is it a bug that it doesn't work at the moment?

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