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Reply #101 March 3, 2023 3:43:55 PM
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All,

Start11 beta has been updated to 1.4.0.4.  Please see the changelog for specifics.

As always, thank you for your support and feedback.

Sean Drohan
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Reply #102 March 3, 2023 4:46:20 PM
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Quoting TPScroggins,
reply 99

Have you uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled to see if there is any change in behavior?

I asked about StartAllBack because you had mentioned it in Discord and we have noticed at times, just having it installed (but disabled) has caused some conflicts with Start11

I just reinstalled (to version 1.4.0.4) and the issue with click to bring windows previews is still the same. Hover works fine, but I'm moving cursor on icon and instantly clicking what causes the previews not to open at all.
System tray labels are not empty anymore, but are aligned to the stock big taskbar:

I asked about StartAllBack on Discord but never used it. I'm using only Start11 and PowerToys.

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Reply #103 March 3, 2023 4:51:03 PM
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Quoting mrWoozie,
reply 102


Quoting TPScroggins,
reply 99

Have you uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled to see if there is any change in behavior?

I asked about StartAllBack because you had mentioned it in Discord and we have noticed at times, just having it installed (but disabled) has caused some conflicts with Start11



I just reinstalled (to version 1.4.0.4) and the issue with click to bring windows previews is still the same. Hover works fine, but I'm moving cursor on icon and instantly clicking what causes the previews not to open at all.
System tray labels are not empty anymore, but are aligned to the stock big taskbar:


I asked about StartAllBack on Discord but never used it. I'm using only Start11 and PowerToys.

If you set the taskbar to medium size does your issue continue?

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Reply #104 March 3, 2023 4:56:59 PM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 103
If you set the taskbar to medium size does your issue continue?

Yes, it happens on every size when enhance the taskbar is on.
You can see it here, hover works, but clicking bugs it:

http://mh01.usermd.net/start11.mp4

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Reply #105 March 3, 2023 5:25:01 PM
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I use two external monitors that connect to my laptop pc through a docking station.  The left monitor is my main monitor.  However, I have display issues with the Start11 taskbar after working satisfactorily for months.  My taskbars are along the top edge of my screens. 

The icons in the left monitor's taskbar is positioned below the edge of the screen, not along the actual edge.  Also, the taskbar icons, systray, etc. are not visible.  There is no issue with the taskbar displayed on my right monitor.

I  want to send a screenshot but I don't see an option to attached photos to these messages.

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Reply #106 March 3, 2023 5:48:23 PM
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Quoting LD111134,
reply 105

I use two external monitors that connect to my laptop pc through a docking station.  The left monitor is my main monitor.  However, I have display issues with the Start11 taskbar after working satisfactorily for months.  My taskbars are along the top edge of my screens. 

The icons in the left monitor's taskbar is positioned below the edge of the screen, not along the actual edge.  Also, the taskbar icons, systray, etc. are not visible.  There is no issue with the taskbar displayed on my right monitor.

I  want to send a screenshot but I don't see an option to attached photos to these messages.

If you are not using the latest 1.4 beta from today please install it.

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Reply #107 March 3, 2023 6:43:30 PM
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Microsoft Surface Pro 7
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎Fri ‎04-‎Nov-‎22
OS build 22621.1344
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Installed Start11_1.4.0.3-j286-Setup_sd.exe -> weird Taskbar (as attached)

Any suggestions to fix?


 

Installed Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe -> same thing:

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Reply #108 March 3, 2023 9:26:00 PM
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Quoting mrWoozie,
reply 104

Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 103
If you set the taskbar to medium size does your issue continue?

Yes, it happens on every size when enhance the taskbar is on.
You can see it here, hover works, but clicking bugs it:

http://mh01.usermd.net/start11.mp4

That link gives me a Phishing warning, Woozie... Can you upload it to something else, OneDrive, GoogleDrive, even YouTube?

Sean Drohan
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Reply #109 March 4, 2023 12:33:27 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 68


Quoting piotrmur_,
reply 64

@Neil Banfield

In the previous version of the program 1.39, the Start button icon has been reduced in the event of a change to a small taskbar


v 1.39 small taskbar without KB5022913


 

v 1.4 small taskbar with KB5022913



Your OS has changed due to the optional patch you installed.

Unfortunately thats the new min size for the default start button in that OS.  Nothing to do with Start11 changes.

I don't know if this is related or not but I'm noticing that the "Default" Start11 Start icon (not the one in the snips above, the one that's actually called Default) is smaller than the rest of the available Start11 Start icons and smaller than the rest of the icons.  Is this something I can fix somehow?

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Reply #110 March 4, 2023 3:02:05 AM
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Quoting SentotAdi,
reply 107


Quoting SentotAdi,
reply 88

Microsoft Surface Pro 7
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎Fri ‎04-‎Nov-‎22
OS build 22621.1344
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Installed Start11_1.4.0.3-j286-Setup_sd.exe -> weird Taskbar (as attached)

Any suggestions to fix?



 

Installed Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe -> same thing:


Uninstall, reboot and reinstall as it may be files were not replaced correctly.

Also does your computer offer the touch optimized taskbar in Windows taskbar settings?

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Reply #111 March 4, 2023 5:36:15 AM
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Thank's for the updates!
I installd  the latest Beta_Version Start 11 v1.4.0.2
I set the transparency from the Taskbar to 10% - udate the explorer.exe and everyting is fine.
After Sleep Mode the the transparency of the Tasbar is gone.
In the settings of Start11 the transparency from the Taskbar still to 10%.
Restart exlorer.exe activates the transparency again.
Can somebody reproduce this behavior or is this a lokal one?
Thank's in advance for your help!

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Reply #112 March 4, 2023 5:52:24 AM
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Start11 beta has been updated to 1.4.0.4 - changing taskbar to small doesn't work. My version is trial.

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Reply #113 March 4, 2023 6:00:52 AM
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Quoting Niufek,
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Start11 beta has been updated to 1.4.0.4 - changing taskbar to small doesn't work. My version is trial.


użyj opcji restart explorer

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Reply #114 March 4, 2023 6:01:10 AM
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Quoting Niufek,
reply 112

Start11 beta has been updated to 1.4.0.4 - changing taskbar to small doesn't work. My version is trial.


Small taskbar is only available if you do not have autohide taskbar enabled and you enable the enhanced taskbar option in Start11.

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Reply #115 March 4, 2023 6:02:16 AM
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Quoting JagdishF,
reply 111

Thank's for the updates!
I installd  the latest Beta_Version Start 11 v1.4.0.2
I set the transparency from the Taskbar to 10% - udate the explorer.exe and everyting is fine.
After Sleep Mode the the transparency of the Tasbar is gone.
In the settings of Start11 the transparency from the Taskbar still to 10%.
Restart exlorer.exe activates the transparency again.
Can somebody reproduce this behavior or is this a lokal one?
Thank's in advance for your help!


1.4.0.4 is the latest beta.  But we will investigate this to see if we can reproduce it.

Does the taskbar turn solid or 100% transparent?

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Reply #116 March 4, 2023 6:02:26 AM
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Quoting Putridumx,
reply 95

Start 11 1.4.0.3-j286

issue I noticed - returns itself to the color of the Windows 11 taskbar.

 

    • Edition  Windows 11 Pro

 

    • 22H2 Version

 

    • Installed on ‎24.‎02.‎2023

 

    • OS build 22621.1344

 

    • Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

 


 

 

at 1.4.0.4 -j287 issue is still present

for me most stable ver is 1.4.0.2-j285

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Reply #117 March 4, 2023 6:13:18 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 110


Quoting SentotAdi,
reply 107






Quoting SentotAdi,

reply 88


Microsoft Surface Pro 7
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎Fri ‎04-‎Nov-‎22
OS build 22621.1344
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Installed Start11_1.4.0.3-j286-Setup_sd.exe -> weird Taskbar (as attached)

Any suggestions to fix?




 

Installed Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe -> same thing:





Uninstall, reboot and reinstall as it may be files were not replaced correctly.

Also does your computer offer the touch optimized taskbar in Windows taskbar settings?

Uninstall > reboot > install Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe > reboot > same result. BTW "Optimize taskbar for touch" checked or not > same result.

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Reply #118 March 4, 2023 6:20:50 AM
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Quoting Putridumx,
reply 116


Quoting Putridumx,
reply 95

Start 11 1.4.0.3-j286

issue I noticed - returns itself to the color of the Windows 11 taskbar.



 



      • Edition  Windows 11 Pro



 



      • 22H2 Version



 



      • Installed on ‎24.‎02.‎2023



 



      • OS build 22621.1344



 



      • Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0



 


 

 



at 1.4.0.4 -j287 issue is still present

for me most stable ver is 1.4.0.2-j285

What is better in 1.4.0.2 over 1.4.0.4?

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Reply #119 March 4, 2023 6:25:58 AM
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Quoting SentotAdi,
reply 117


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 110






Quoting SentotAdi,

reply 107










Quoting SentotAdi,



reply 88




Microsoft Surface Pro 7
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎Fri ‎04-‎Nov-‎22
OS build 22621.1344
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

Installed Start11_1.4.0.3-j286-Setup_sd.exe -> weird Taskbar (as attached)

Any suggestions to fix?





 

Installed Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe -> same thing:






Uninstall, reboot and reinstall as it may be files were not replaced correctly.

Also does your computer offer the touch optimized taskbar in Windows taskbar settings?



Uninstall > reboot > install Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe > reboot > same result. BTW "Optimize taskbar for touch" checked or not > same result.


If you disable the enhanced taskbar setting in Start11 what does it look like?

Also what scaling mode are you using and do things change if you use medium taskbar mode or large? (with enhanced taskbar on)

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Reply #120 March 4, 2023 6:37:12 AM
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@Putridumx to podstawowa sprawa zawsze tak robiłem zadziałało dopiero po zmianach, które zaproponował kolega @Neil Banfield thanks for your help everything is working now.

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Reply #121 March 4, 2023 6:38:45 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 118


Quoting Putridumx,
reply 116






Quoting Putridumx,

reply 95


Start 11 1.4.0.3-j286

issue I noticed - returns itself to the color of the Windows 11 taskbar.

        • Edition  Windows 11 Pro
        • 22H2 Version
        • Installed on ‎24.‎02.‎2023
        • OS build 22621.1344
        • Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0   
 
at 1.4.0.4 -j287 issue is still present

for me most stable ver is 1.4.0.2-j285


What is better in 1.4.0.2 over 1.4.0.4?

it's more stable - there no issue what i'll posted earlier

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Reply #122 March 4, 2023 7:09:29 AM
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> Does the taskbar turn solid or 100% transparent?

Solid

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Reply #123 March 4, 2023 7:20:28 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 119

 
Microsoft Surface Pro 7
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎Fri ‎04-‎Nov-‎22
OS build 22621.1344
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0


Uninstall > reboot > install Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe > reboot > same result. BTW "Optimize taskbar for touch" checked or not > same result.



If you disable the enhanced taskbar setting in Start11 what does it look like?

Also what scaling mode are you using and do things change if you use medium taskbar mode or large? (with enhanced taskbar on)

Enhanced taskbar setting > OFF:

Do you mean Windows scaling? System > Display > Custom scaling > 140
or Taskbar scaling?

Enhanced taskbar setting > ON
Small taskbar size:

Enhanced taskbar setting > ON
Medium taskbar size:

Enhanced taskbar setting > ON
Large taskbar size:

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Reply #124 March 4, 2023 10:28:04 AM
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Quoting SentotAdi,
reply 123


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 119









 

Microsoft Surface Pro 7
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎Fri ‎04-‎Nov-‎22
OS build 22621.1344
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0



Uninstall > reboot > install Start11_1.4.0.4-j287-Setup_sd.exe > reboot > same result. BTW "Optimize taskbar for touch" checked or not > same result.




If you disable the enhanced taskbar setting in Start11 what does it look like?

Also what scaling mode are you using and do things change if you use medium taskbar mode or large? (with enhanced taskbar on)



Enhanced taskbar setting > OFF:



Do you mean Windows scaling? System > Display > Custom scaling > 140
or Taskbar scaling?

Enhanced taskbar setting > ON
Small taskbar size:



Enhanced taskbar setting > ON
Medium taskbar size:



Enhanced taskbar setting > ON
Large taskbar size:


It looks like this might be being caused by the unusual custom scaling factor of 140%.

We are investigating further.

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Reply #125 March 4, 2023 10:44:02 AM
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System > Display > Custom scaling > OFF/NONE

Taskbar display:

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