I sent you my ZIP file ...

Same with me ... Don't know how to reproduce ...  

sent mine, and also tried these 2 things: 

sfc /scannow (had nothing to lose... did correct some files)

DDU (uninstalled NVIDIA drivers clean , update to latest)

so far no issue... ill keep you guys updated.

Thank you for tackling this issue head on!

ill keep helping as much as i can

fyi, didn't had the issue since the last 2 steps i mentioned above , maybe people can try those as well.  

lets see what tomorrow brings

yeah didnt help... 

Sent a link to both files, same issue, only 3 icons being shown are Touch Keyboard, Network, and Sound, all Windows System Icons, and the issue seems intermittent. 

Crowding only occurs on the icon closest to the ^ (expand systray arrow) which is always the keyboard icon being crowded/duplicated.

Changing the taskbar icon arrangement does not prevent the issue from occurring, nor does changing to or from a custom start icon.

This issue exists on the 4 systems I currently run the Steam version of Start11 on, and has been an issue since day 1.

In addition to Start11, I also use a paid Steam version of Stardock Fences on all 4 machines. I have also exported the Fences registry export as well. 

I now have swapped to an Nvidia card to see if I can recreate, does anyone have a use case that will always trip the issue or it seeming at random?

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

For the users with this issue, when this happens, it is staying that way until action is taken or is it that way for a few seconds and then corrects itself?

Example of my experience linked: https://cdn.stardock.us/support/uploads/2023-02-14_16-13-13tpscroggins.mp4

Is that representative of what you are seeing - that you can see it happen it within a few seconds, it corrects itself.  If that is not your experience, tell us how it's not (for example, does correct itself - does not go away on its own or last way longer)

Paul Scroggins
Associate Technical Support Analyst

Ok, so you observe it correcting itself, yes?

Also, quantify:

'Sometimes it takes some time. '

How long is 'some time' in seconds.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Hi, for few days after I got the clock problem on 1.39 I put more focus on the behavior of my start11. The systray crowding for me happens 100% of times when the microphone is activated and in other occasions but it is sure when the microphone icon appear. It's just an idea, could it be that this happens when system temp icons are showed? Like microphone or from previous posts, the keyboard on screen, the removal of drive or the language?

No, for me it is persistent, for the microphone one as long as the icon is showed I have the overlapping. When the mic is turned off, like at the end of a call, the icons will be readjusted properly. In case I have the overcrowding caused by something else, even locking the system and reenter doesn't refresh the icons when happening. The issue happening for few seconds, let's say between 5 seconds and a minute, never occurred to both of my systems that use start11.

Just got the issue today and kept an eye on the behavior.

The issue appeared after connecting to my office environment via Citrix Workspace App. Here I started all the tools I needed, e.g. MS Teams.

15 minutes later, the issue was still there ...

So I shut down MS Teams in my Citrix environment, and it was fixed.

After starting MS Teams again, the issue is gone now.

Till now my systray looks good, although I'm still working in the Citrix environment.

any updates regarding this issue ?