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Start11 1.24 (was 1.23) Beta Feedback Thread

With the Start11 1.23 beta release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
Screenshots and videos are very helpful. Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and link included in your post. Images can be directly added.
If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions. If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Start11 1.24 is a culmination of prior betas

1.24 changelog

05/16/2022

Removed a surplus UI button if you resize the config really tall on the main page and
Fixed the tooltip text for the Win10 menu style when all apps is hidden by default
One missing string which is added to the en lang file

05/12/2022

Fix for error prompt about PowerShell showing if security settings block running it
Fix for ObjectDock running causing enhanced taskbar to lockup or run extremely slowly
Added support for shutdown / reboot when other users are logged into the computer
Added steam update support
Fix for issue with small mode taskbar sometimes causing a crash on explorer restart
Fixed issue with system tray icons sometimes shrinking or turning into one column when using enhanced taskbar mode
Fix for issue clicking on grouped taskbar button when primary monitor is to the right of the primary and mouse jumping to the corner sometimes (most likely on double click)
Fixed issue with prolonged cpu spike when opening jumplist from taskbar
Tweak to clicking on already running app in taskbar for detecting if to focus or minimize / restore
Added strings to en.lng and en-us.lng for new bits in 1.24

1.23 changelog

05/09/2022

Tweak for tooltips on autohide taskbar on top of the screen (possibly - did not test but tweaked logic)
Background color added to start button backgrounds in the config as white ones were invisible when light mode
Core language updates
- German
- Korean
- Russian
- Chinese (Simplified, Traditional)
- Portuguese-Brazil
  
  Note: While they should be complete, they have not been reviewed yet to ensure they all fit in the UI properly. Any that do not will be updated in a full release of this version.

5/6/2022

Fixed issue on current Win11 dev/beta channel releases when hiding the show hidden system tray icons button on the taskbar causing all taskbar icons to vanish incorrectly
Different sized start buttons are now adjusted to fit correctly on Win11 dev/beta touch aware taskbar (now removed from Win11 builds). This means extra large ones will be shrunk to fit and small ones will be padded
Fixed issue with dark mode Win10 style having too solid a background color for the tile backgrounds
Fix issue with taskbar on top not allowing you to click to the very top and activate a taskbar button
Fixed issue where full taskbar will force scrolling quicker than Win10 taskbar with Enhanced Start11 taskbar in non combine mode
Fix issue with Fences in Win7/modern menu all programs list when dark not using a different colour for the text
Added registry key to disable Fences showing color in Win7/modern menu all programs list (NoColourForFencesFolders = 1 in usual registry location)
Fixed issue with pinned taskbar items having incorrect mouseover image edge color when using a dark taskbar
Fixed issue with default alpha on taskbar being incorrectly set when reset in software. Would need to reset taskbar alpha manually to fix
Fixed issue with Win11 Taskbar not respecting light/dark mode changes sometimes
Fixed issue with touch on Win10 start button
Fixed for the Win10 update (optional currently) where the background of the weather button on the taskbar doesn't respect the texture
Fixed issue with taskbar remaining on top when opening start menu from a full screen game/app on a secondary monitor
Fixed issue with multiline taskbar showing scrollbar when there is a spare row
Tweaks to improve search quality
Fix for insider so it correctly handles the taskbar and system tray (again!)

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Known issues

While we appreciate all feedback, please remember that we offer no official support for beta \ preview \ developer channel versions of Windows. If you report issues while in any of those early release channels, you should not expect them to be addressed unless it still exists in a retail version of Windows.

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With the release of Start1 1.24, we are closing this thread.

https://forums.stardock.com/512553/start11-124-release-issue-report-thread

Thanks to all that participated.

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Start 11 is not working with the dev channel update just released.. jk. Actually this is a nice quick fix, I think start 11 is now working on the windows preview channel better then it ever has before. Let's hope Microsoft is done playing.

Side note for Windows 11 Insider users: Anyone that is using the registry key, "OldTaskbarOn11" will need to delete that key to regain control of "show seconds on taskbar clock" otherwise it works.

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Quoting PhoenixRising1,

reply 4

Start 11 is not working with the dev channel update just released..

Banned.

Quoting PhoenixRising1,

reply 4

Unbanned 😉

Sean Drohan
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22616.1 shifted task verticaly

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error happen when enabled start11 taskbar enhancer

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Quoting mohamed20093,

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error happen when enabled start11 taskbar enhancer

We would need more detail on os version, small taskbar or not, scaling factor.

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build 22616.1

small taskbar

100 scale

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When a notification pops up in the tray from an application it originally pops up on the right side where the tray icons are. But if that notification is still showing and you right click a pinned taskbar icon to view the jump list, it moves the notification to where the jumplist shows. This was happening in the 1.22 stable also. See picture below.

One additional thing, when right clicking a pinned tray icon for a jump list, the jump list loads, but there is a high spike in CPU usage which causes CPU cooling fan to spike to high RPMs. See the 4 core usage below of me just right clicking two different icons for jump lists. Also picture beiow

This is on Windows 11 stable latest public release/winver of 22000.652

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After updating these programs and Windows 11, I installed Start11_1.23-j190-Setup_sd.exe and at the very end of the installation Windows 11 crashed, but start11 v. 1.23 seems to work normally so far. Windows 11 Pro, version: 21H2, build: 22000.675

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I am still getting this problem with certain apps (many inc Settings, Edge, Lightroom) where the App Window opens with its top egde against teh top of the montor and a taskbar sized gap at the boottom. The problem is that the top end is covered up by Start 11 taskbar (if at top) and one can't access file menus or minimise etc. Or grab the top of teh app to move to a second monitor

See pics of bpottom and top (in this case iwth Settings window)

I am on latest Win 11 Insider Beta

Thank you

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Testing out the seconds on the clock option (which I love! thank you for adding this) and I'm seeing the tray icons move around when the seconds value changes to a less-wide character like a 1.

See below for an animated gif of the issue (need to wait until 51 seconds).

clock ticks causing icon jumps

Start 11 Version: 1.23 Beta

Windows Version: 22H2 (OS Build 22621.1)

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Quoting blanecoulcher,

reply 12

Hi

I am still getting this problem with certain apps (many inc Settings, Edge, Lightroom) where the App Window opens with its top egde against teh top of the montor and a taskbar sized gap at the boottom. The problem is that the top end is covered up by Start 11 taskbar (if at top) and one can't access file menus or minimise etc. Or grab the top of teh app to move to a second monitor

See pics of bpottom and top (in this case iwth Settings window)

I am on latest Win 11 Insider Beta

Thank you

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If you open say notepad and maximize it, does it go under the taskbar at the top?

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Same with Notepad when maximised:

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Quoting blanecoulcher,

reply 15

Same with Notepad when maximised:

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Original 1920 x 134

If you resize the taskbar to two rows and then back to one does this stop this issue with maximized notepad?

If not are you running any other software that might impact the taskbar or reserve space for itself?

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Quoting Neil Banfield,

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If you resize the taskbar to two rows and then back to one does this stop this issue with maximized notepad?

If not are you running any other software that might impact the taskbar or reserve space for itself?

Bizarely- it seems to work OK now. All I did was right click on Edge in teh Start 11 Menu. Select Properties. Then select run as normal window. Notepad also works. Weird

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But I do get this on both my desktop and SP8. If you hover over an icon in the taskbar (in this case Google Photos) it highlights a differnt app. And if you click the icon- it will open up the highlighted (wrong) app. In this case What's app. Seems to be a misalignment

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Windows has just imposingly updated to build 22616.1 on my system and it caused a lot of issues with Start11 v1.22. I've just switched to version 1.23 and am glad to say most things are now working as i'd expect, however there are two issues to report:

- to second what someone in this thread already mentioned, when coming in and out of some fullscreen applications or restarting explorer, the taskbar leaves behind a gap at the bottom of the screen as it's being moved to the top when Start11 kicks in, which pushes all other windows up out of bounds; the easiest way to fix this at the moment seems to be to enable the 'allow the taskbar to be resized' option and dragging the edge forth and back, as this triggers it to refresh and apparently in so doing reminds the bottom of the screen that there is in fact no taskbar there

- when the 'taskbar size' option is set to small, the start button is not vertically centred

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Thanks for the update. I am glad the transparent Taskbar is back, but there is a slight issue with it. Prior to this the taskbar was completely invisible apart from the icons. Now there is a line at the top of the taskbar indicating the top of it. Its very thin, but would it be possible to go back to how it was before with that line removed as well?

Thanks.

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The current beta build has been updated from 1.23 to 1.24. Please see the changelog:

https://forums.stardock.com/512285/get;3851201

You will not be prompted to update so you will have to do so manually and ensure you reboot once installed.

Thanks again for all your feedback.

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Oh yeah..... taskbar notification area now finally seems to behave, no more item stacking. Thanks Stardock, i am loving it.

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With the release of Start1 1.24, we are closing this thread.

https://forums.stardock.com/512553/start11-124-release-issue-report-thread

Thanks to all that participated.

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