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Reply #26 November 24, 2021 7:00:13 PM
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Weird problem..

When upgrading an existing program on my system, the icon/shortcut on both the all apps list and the start menu disappears.  Just upgraded my VPN client and the installer first uninstalled the previous version and then installed the new one.  The standard Win11 app list and start menu is fine but Start11 loses the app shortcut completely.  Kind of a pain because Start11 does not think the app is installed on the system.   Need to go into install directory, find the shortcut, and manually add it.  Rebooting or restarting explorer also works.

Does not happen with new installs--only upgrades of existing apps where the upgrade script removes the old version first.  

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Reply #27 November 24, 2021 10:32:16 PM
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I am still getting the same issue that johnsutter71 is having with the task bar at the top of the screen and the network, sound and battery menu being truncated at the top I am running:

Edition Windows 11 Home

Version 21H2

Installed on ‎7/‎10/‎2021

OS build 22000.348

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.348.0

I have uninstalled 1.01, rebooted and reinstalled but there is no change.

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Reply #28 November 24, 2021 10:38:04 PM
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Quoting Aids,
reply 27

I am still getting the same issue that johnsutter71 is having with the task bar at the top of the screen and the network, sound and battery menu being truncated at the top I am running:

Edition Windows 11 Home

Version 21H2

Installed on ‎7/‎10/‎2021

OS build 22000.348

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.348.0

I have uninstalled 1.01, rebooted and reinstalled but there is no change.

Hello,

Sorry to hear you are having issues. Please try purge and reinstall steps as mentioned here: [Link] Just make sure to redownload the latest version from your account. Reboot after the purged. Reinstall, and Reboot again after the installation. Retest it. Report back here.

Basj,

Stardock Community Assistant.

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Reply #29 November 25, 2021 1:24:46 AM
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Tried the purge and reinstall steps as advised but still the same.

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Reply #30 November 25, 2021 1:35:45 AM
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Quoting Aids,
reply 29

Tried the purge and reinstall steps as advised but still the same.

Hello,

I have forward your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

Basj,

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Reply #31 November 25, 2021 3:02:42 AM
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Custom Icon's no longer work in Windows 11 mode, they only load as default icons with no custom visuals

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Reply #32 November 25, 2021 3:17:15 AM
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Quoting PhoenixRising1,
reply 31

Custom Icon's no longer work in Windows 11 mode, they only load as default icons with no custom visuals

?

What do you mean by this?

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Reply #33 November 25, 2021 9:55:24 AM
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Ok. Let me clarify.

So when using the windows 11 theme, any shortcut icons or folders that I have altered via the change icon option that are pinned to the start menu no longer have the custom changed icon look and have instead reverted to the original default icons.

When using windows 10 theme this is also true, but if I enable the experimental tile option then the icons also will change to the new icons so it seems the experimental option is also preventing custom changed icons.

Interesting thought...

If switching on and off experimental tile option is what is causing this behavior, what would happen if the experimental tile option was also added to windows 11 theme? That could be fun...

Edit. The computer just needs to be restarted for icons to take affect. You can disregard, although interesting thought can stay.   

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Reply #34 November 25, 2021 10:30:19 AM
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Quoting PhoenixRising1,
reply 33

Ok. Let me clarify.

So when using the windows 11 theme, any shortcut icons or folders that I have altered via the change icon option that are pinned to the start menu no longer have the custom changed icon look and have instead reverted to the original default icons.

When using windows 10 theme this is also true, but if I enable the experimental tile option then the icons also will change to the new icons so it seems the experimental option is also preventing custom changed icons.

Interesting thought...

If switching on and off experimental tile option is what is causing this behavior, what would happen if the experimental tile option was also added to windows 11 theme? That could be fun...

Edit. I switched to v 1.0 then back to v 1.01 to check and see if it was a v 1.01 problem. The reinstallation seems to fix this issue with NEW custom icons as they seem to stick when reinstalled.

That is very odd as the icon is not saved anywhere for groups.  Icons are located on load up of the menus and nothing should have changed in that regard since 1.0

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Reply #35 November 25, 2021 11:26:29 AM
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It did not and I uninstalled using revo uninstaller pro. SAME ISSUE

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Reply #36 November 25, 2021 11:57:17 AM
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I also tried switching my monitors between primary to secondary. Changing wallpaper from stretch to fill. Switching the taskbar from top to bottom and vise versa. But the only way to resolve in putting the taskbar back to the bottom of the screen. 

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Reply #37 November 25, 2021 10:52:01 PM
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Are you planning to ever fix the highlighting issue as you hover your mouse over the Start11 menus?
Maybe these pictures below explain it better. The red arrows point to the highlight on all images.

Here is the Windows 11 start menu and you can easily see the highlight where the mouse pointer is sitting.



Here is the Start11 menu and you can barely even see the highlight at all.

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Reply #38 November 26, 2021 8:42:24 AM
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When using the windows 10 style the start11 menu not always is used when using the windows icon on the bottom left corner, only when the focus is on the desktop. For example if Im using google chrome and want to enter the windows10 style menu via the icon rather than the windows key, the start menu will be the standard windows 11 start menu. However the Win key will always work. 

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Reply #39 November 26, 2021 1:47:26 PM
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https://forums.stardock.com/507599/page/1/#3827663 can we get this fixed please, thanks

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Reply #40 November 26, 2021 3:25:18 PM
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Hi

 

I'm using version 1.0.

on

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    21H2
Installed on    ‎11/‎11/‎2021
OS build    22000.348
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.348.0

I use a Windows 7 style start menu as I have for years on W10 using Start 10. My issue is that the recent & pinned file lists against pinned apps on the menu are not populating properly, if at all. The screenshot below, for example, shows that the list for Excel hasn't populated at all. Annoying, as that's my preferred method of accessing my most used files.

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Reply #41 November 26, 2021 3:51:09 PM
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When using the option "load up custom static tile images (experimental)" on the Win10 style, the app "Microsoft Minesweeper" will have no icon.

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Reply #42 November 27, 2021 12:51:51 AM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 34


Quoting PhoenixRising1,
reply 33

Ok. Let me clarify.

So when using the windows 11 theme, any shortcut icons or folders that I have altered via the change icon option that are pinned to the start menu no longer have the custom changed icon look and have instead reverted to the original default icons.

When using windows 10 theme this is also true, but if I enable the experimental tile option then the icons also will change to the new icons so it seems the experimental option is also preventing custom changed icons.

Interesting thought...

If switching on and off experimental tile option is what is causing this behavior, what would happen if the experimental tile option was also added to windows 11 theme? That could be fun...

Edit. I switched to v 1.0 then back to v 1.01 to check and see if it was a v 1.01 problem. The reinstallation seems to fix this issue with NEW custom icons as they seem to stick when reinstalled.



That is very odd as the icon is not saved anywhere for groups.  Icons are located on load up of the menus and nothing should have changed in that regard since 1.0

I have pinpointed my issue.

It is actually a slight compatibility issue between TileIconifer ( https://github.com/Jonno12345/TileIconifier/releases ) and start 11. These two programs actually work very well together as far as custom tiles for windows 10 theme is concerned. But there is one setting that will cause start 11 to have some odd behavior. You can not Iconify and app / folder AND use a custom icon at the same time for the same shortcut. Iconified (custom tiles) must be made with shortcuts that have their icons set to default instead. I have found myself switching between both windows 10 theme and windows 11 theme regularly and that is how I ran into this problem. I wanted custom folder shortcuts in windows 11 theme and custom tile folders in windows 10 theme. I guess I will have to pick one or the other now.

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Reply #43 November 27, 2021 5:19:22 AM
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Quoting grahammullan,
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Hi

 

I'm using version 1.0.

on

Edition    Windows 11 Pro
Version    21H2
Installed on    ‎11/‎11/‎2021
OS build    22000.348
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.348.0

I use a Windows 7 style start menu as I have for years on W10 using Start 10. My issue is that the recent & pinned file lists against pinned apps on the menu are not populating properly, if at all. The screenshot below, for example, shows that the list for Excel hasn't populated at all. Annoying, as that's my preferred method of accessing my most used files.


If you run excel do you get the jump list content on a right click on the taskbar item for it?

We only show what we are provided by the OS.  

One possible reason is if you have accidentally disabled the option in the OS to track recent info like this.  Doing so will stop jump lists working.

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Reply #44 November 27, 2021 9:09:43 AM
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I get the Excel jump list on the file page. Same for Word. Word has populated the jump list from the start menu, but wrongly! Some goes for Acrobat.

If there is an OS control option, I have no idea where to find it.

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Reply #45 November 27, 2021 9:21:15 AM
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Found it! It was switched on.

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Reply #46 November 27, 2021 9:29:07 AM
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And having toggled off and back to on, I have now lost the jump lists completely.

 

And I have gone so far as to edit the registry to implement jump lists and still nothing.

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Reply #47 November 27, 2021 1:11:43 PM
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i would like to suggest also the increased of framerate of the animation when you start typing in start menu and search mode comes

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Reply #48 November 27, 2021 11:04:08 PM
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 the little white square in the Taskbar context menu (1680 x 1050 monitor)

Start 11 (in Win 10 Style) ver 1.0 on Windows 11 Home

Version 21H2

Installed on ‎10/‎13/‎2021

OS build 22000.348

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.348.0

 

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Reply #49 November 28, 2021 2:14:07 AM
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Quoting durakc,
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1) Right clicking on some pinned apps and selecting (More/Run as administrator) will pop up an error. For example, doing this on the standard Win11 app, Defragment and Optimize Drives, will pop up the error. Interesting that if you open the app in administrator mode by Ctrl+Shift+Click that it opens in administrator mode without any error popping up. This issue happens on several pinned apps. The apps open correctly in the Windows 11 start menu.


 

This exactly i reported on post #1 and #2 on https://forums.stardock.com/508476/page/1/#3827235

And yet nothing seems to be done.

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Reply #50 November 28, 2021 1:23:49 PM
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yep got the same on shut down dialogue 

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