Neil Banfield

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Start11 v0.96 opt in for interested customers

We are interested in additional feedback from customers on an updated build over 0.95.

If you are interested in trying 0.96 over 0.95 you can manually install this build here : https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahvwl0nmANO2kKtHTmh41VQJ1fwRcQ?e=eqS7QD

The build will not automatically be offered via any of the check for updates, it is only available here.

Changes

Fixed issue with missing Run as administrator option for some apps
Fixed issue with precision touchpads and scrolling again
Fixed missing lookup for "Advanced" text in config screen
Fixed missing lookup for Pin to taskbar and Unpin from taskbar in right click menu
Fixed issue with autohide taskbar on Win11 sometimes making menu open and instantly close if you click on the start button
Fixed issue with being able to have folder and item mouseovered in all apps list
Found problem with Stardock Curtains and Start11 centre taskbar options. An update to Curtains is planned to resolve this.
Fixed issue with VS2019 tiles (when in experimental tile mode) being blank
Fixed it so you can scroll the Win10 list with a wheel mouse whilst dragging items to make positioning icons easier with long lists
Fixed an issue with tooltips with & in them showing a _ instead of &
Undid a change which removed UndockingDisabled registry key detection
Fixed config to detect above setting so settings which apply to Win10 show vs Win11 when on Win11
Prevented you from dragging things into the recent apps list on Win11 menu

Please do let us know anything you have encountered which was listed as fixed but is not, or is a regression over 0.94/0.95.

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zme-ul

Initially it looks stable on my end. Touchpads are working again, scrolling feels natural, and animations are loading out as they should. It does not feel like a regression to me, but I will keep playing around and see if I find anything

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Hello

Icons do not center on multiple monitors,

I am using windows 10 21H2 Lenovo, display resolution 1920 x 1080

and Lenovo monitor resolution 2560 x 1440

usually, one on the center and the other on the left,

sometimes both of them go on the center but when I restart my computer one them has to go to left.

I must turn “show taskbar on all displays" off.

I am trying Start11 version 0.96

Regards

Ihab

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I can confirm two finger scrolling on a touchpad works now

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Running Windows 11x64 Pro 21H2 OS Build 22000.282 on a Dell XPS 15 9575 2in1 laptop. V0.96 test build permits me for the first time to implement a Windows 10 Start Menu like I was running prior to Windows 11. Thanks for all the fixes and improvements. Start11v96beta

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Having an issue. This was happening in 0.95 also. The first time I click on Start it comes up with a page I have made and correctly. Pick an application to run then click on Start and it is the alphabetic list of applications. I made a short Snaget but don't know how to get it to you.

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Quoting lwetzel,

reply 5

Which menu style are you using?

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Hi - Start11 dosn't seem to be working on W11 arm dev build 22483.1011

tried with 0.95 and also with the one linked here 0.96

I have removed everything pinned and recommended, since I just want All apps to show.

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Quoting SpeedCall,

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Hi - Start11 dosn't seem to be working on W11 arm dev build 22483.1011

tried with 0.95 and also with the one linked here 0.96

I have removed everything pinned and recommended, since I just want All apps to show.

Reduced 17%

Original 1619 x 771

Start11 does not support arm processor systems at this time.

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In Windows 11 Style, not is possible translate this lines:
Type here to search
Recent documents

For a complete translation, it's necesary add this lines to the languaje file:

"Reset"="Reset"
"Pick texture colour..."="Pick texture colour..."
"Use automatic accent colour for texture colour"="Use automatic accent colour for texture colour"
"Use automatic menu colour for texture colour"="Use automatic menu colour for texture colour"
"Reset to no texture recolouring"="Reset to no texture recolouring"
"Stretch to show entire texture"="Stretch to show entire texture"
"Remove from this list"="Remove from this list"
"Pin to Start menu"="Pin to Start menu"
"Unpin from Start menu"="Unpin from Start menu"
"All applications"="All applications"
" Type here to search"=" Type here to search"
"Colour"="Colour"

"Recent documents"="Recent documents" (NOW DONT WORK)

Thank's for a great support, and sorry for my poor english.

Regards.

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" Type here to search"=" Type here to search" seems to work (notice the space before the text string).

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Greats!!! It's work!!!
Thank you, rj79048

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These are the lines I've added to the language file (so far), that is not included in the English language file.

"Reset"="Återställ"
"Pick texture colour..."="Välj texturfärg..."
"Use automatic accent colour for texture colour"="Använd automatisk accentfärg som texturfärg"
"Use automatic menu colour for texture colour"="Använd automatisk menyfärg som texturfärg"
"Reset to no texture recolouring"="Återställ till ingen texturfärgning"
"Stretch to show entire texture"="Sträck för att visa hela texturen"
"Remove from this list"="Remove from this list"
"Pin to Start menu"="Fäst på Start-menyn"
"Unpin from Start menu"="Ta bort från Start-menyn"
"Unpin from taskbar"="Ta bort från aktivitetsfältet"
"Click here to name group"="Klicka här för att namnge gruppen"
"Click here to name page"="Klicka här för att namnge sidan"
" Type here to search"=" Skriv här för att söka"
"All applications"="Alla appar"
"Recent documents"="Rekommenderat"

The translated part is in Swedish... As "fjmatad" mentioned above - the last line doesn't work.

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When adding new applications, the icons do not appear in the Start menu.

0.96

After reboot - works fine.

Icon missing

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I donwload it right now, and soon as possible I will back with my feedback.

I will use it on my personal workstation.

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Quoting szalka66,

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When adding new applications, the icons do not appear in the Start menu.

0.96

Which part of the menu and which menu style and what applications?

And by adding new applications do you mean installing new ones or something else?

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I'm using the Windows 11 Style.

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Hi there,

After installing I configured it to use the centered Windows 10 Start menu style, as you can see in the settings, but besides not centering on all three of my monitors, it still doesn't respect the screen size of each monitor, leaving an excess of the menu invades the screen of the third monitor and in this one it shows the start button in the left corner and not in the middle as configured.

Triple monitor view

Before you ask, this is my system:

AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 3.20 GHz Processor

RAM installed 32.0 GB (4 x 8GB DDR31600)

Windows 10 Enterprise Edition LTSC Version 21H2

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Compilation of SO 19044.1288

Windows Experience Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0

Installed on 2021/06/21

Monitors: AOC 2217 "1680 x 1050", AOC 24B1W "1920 x 1080", Samsung SA300 "1920 x 1080"

Stat11 0.96 installed over 0.95

Regards

PS: PS: Looking closely, I saw that when right-clicking on a program that is already pinned to the Start menu, the software shows the option to pin it again, allowing you to pin two or more icons for the same program to the menu. , making it a real mess, because if you use multiple programs and shortcuts for different parts of the system, you can duplicate shortcuts without realizing it, another downside is that you can't drag a program and pin it in the menu's excess space, as it turns red indicating that it cannot be pinned, wouldn't it be better if it did this every time you tried to pin some program already pinned in the menu so as not to generate duplicates and if it allowed a program to be pinned in this free space?

Start Menu problems

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Is there any fix in sight for the truncated menu when having the task bar at the top of the screen

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This bug was originally marked fixed in RC4/0.95, "Fixed missing separator lines on Win7/Modern UI menus sometimes", but it's only a partial fix.

Previous behavior: The separator would appear in the wrong place, and correct itself when the user mouses over the menu, leaving a visual artifact to the right.

Current behavior: The separator still appears in the wrong place, but corrects itself once the menu finishes rendering. It still leaves an artifact. This is a definite improvement, but still noticeably awkward.

Ideal behavior: The separator only ever appears in the correct place, and leaves no visual artifact.

Video showing current behavior (10% speed):

Tested in Start11 v0.96 running on Windows 11 Version 21H2 (22000.282).

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Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 6

Quoting lwetzel,

reply 5

Which menu style are you using?

Maybe this link will show the issue I was describing.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvpTc_3qM1M6lqE-63cQFM0HZgiBnQ?e=SFkBkd

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With the enabled Start11 search there is the All programs menu item overlaps last used apps list in the Modern and Windows 7 styles.

And it would be nice to have feature of menu height changing in Modern and Windows 7 styles.

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I am experiencing an issue with Start11 in which the Start Menu will open from the middle of the screen, approximately half way up. I have the start button on my left monitor in the windows task bar, as well as on my right monitor on my ObjectDock. When I start my PC, the menu opens as expected, right above the start button that I use to open the menu, then for no apparent reason it will start opening half way up the screen.

The start menu still opens on the screen that has the start menu used to trigger it (IE Left = Taskbar, Right = ObjectDock,) but in the wrong position. (Image below.)

Opening the Start11 Configuration utility and setting the "Use Start11" off then on again has no effect. I need to reboot in order for the menu to move back to its original position.

I have 2 LG UltraGear 32" monitors, and an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB card.

My left monitor is the primary monitor and is connected via DisplayPort and my right monitor is the secondary monitor and connected via HDMI. The resolution of both monitors is 1920x1080 and the scaling is 100%.

The windows taskbar is on the left(primary) monitor and my 3 object docks are on my right(secondary) monitor. Start11 is only on 1 of the docks. The issue was occurring prior to the install of ObjectDock, so I don't think it's related to that application.

This is a fresh install of Windows 11. It's not an upgrade from windows 10, I wiped my PC and installed the OS fresh. This was not an issue when I was running Win10 on this PC.

The video driver, installed hours before Start11 was the most updated one from NVIDIA . I also updated the "Generic PnP Monitor" to the latest LG UltraGear drivers from their website.

In addition, I have ObjectDock/Star11 on my HP Spectre laptop as well as my Surface Pro. Those 2 devices, also running windows 11, do not experience this issue.

I hope this gives you some useful information to help track down the bug.

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