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Stardock Releases Start10 Version 1.7

Stardock has released a new version of its popular Windows Start menu replacement, Start10.

April 18, 2019 1:00:00 PM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Stardock has released a new version of its popular Windows Start menu replacement, Start10.  

Version 1.7 adds improved skinning support as well as a light theme to support the upcoming Windows 10 update.

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Start10 is designed to combine the latest features of Windows 10 with the usability of the traditional Start menu. Its features include the All Programs folder metaphor, integrated search, drag-and-drop shell integration and numerous user customization options.

Visit www.start10.com to get Start10
Owners of Start10 can access the new build from their Stardock account page.

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Reply #1 April 18, 2019 2:02:15 PM
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Now on this moment i got version 1.61 installed, Object Desktop Manager tells me to update Start10 to version 1.70, butt it doesn't work because during installation i get the 123 error code, What shall i do to solve the update problem?

 

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Reply #2 April 18, 2019 3:05:31 PM
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A bit curious as to what the improved skinning support entails. Anyone who knows?

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Reply #3 April 18, 2019 3:32:11 PM
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Quoting mikeskottke,
reply 1

Now on this moment i got version 1.61 installed, Object Desktop Manager tells me to update Start10 to version 1.70, butt it doesn't work because during installation i get the 123 error code, What shall i do to solve the update problem? 

With Kind Regards

Try an update from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

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Stardock Customer Service Manager

 

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Reply #4 April 18, 2019 11:29:28 PM
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Quoting sdRohan,
reply 3


Quoting mikeskottke,
reply 1

Now on this moment i got version 1.61 installed, Object Desktop Manager tells me to update Start10 to version 1.70, butt it doesn't work because during installation i get the 123 error code, What shall i do to solve the update problem? 

With Kind Regards



Try an update from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

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Sean Drohan
Stardock Customer Service Manager

 

I have downloaded from that link and I get as far as 9.lnk and the install crashes.

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Reply #5 April 19, 2019 12:12:41 AM
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I see the broken "Games" link has still not been fixed.

This has been around now since version 1.5

Pretty poor effort for a paid-for utilty

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Reply #6 April 19, 2019 1:11:19 AM
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FYI... I'm getting this BattlEye error while running Atlas game after updating to Start10 v1.7:

 

21:51:19: Starting BattlEye Service...

21:51:22: Launching game...

21:51:25: Note: File blocks can be ignored if they don't cause problems with the game.

21:51:25: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Start10\start10_64.dll".

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Reply #7 April 19, 2019 2:17:31 AM
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Quoting sedblue,
reply 6

FYI... I'm getting this BattlEye error while running Atlas game after updating to Start10 v1.7:

 

21:51:19: Starting BattlEye Service...

21:51:22: Launching game...

21:51:25: Note: File blocks can be ignored if they don't cause problems with the game.

21:51:25: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Start10\start10_64.dll".

Is it causing issues with the game?  It says you can ignore that message if it is not causing problems.

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Reply #8 April 19, 2019 2:21:06 AM
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I see the broken "Games" link has still not been fixed.

This has been around now since version 1.5

Pretty poor effort for a paid-for utilty

Later versions of win10 removed the special games folder in the OS.  It is nothing to do with any start10 update.

Complaints on that would have to go to Microsoft, we just show the folder contents but it would have to exist first.

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Reply #9 April 19, 2019 3:21:47 AM
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Neil, if Microsoft listened to customer complaints, there would be no reason for Start10 to exist.

Why not just admit defeat and remove the annoying broken link. It's not rocket science.

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Reply #10 April 19, 2019 3:29:19 AM
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Quoting hawkeyes94955,
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Neil, if Microsoft listened to customer complaints, there would be no reason for Start10 to exist.

Why not just admit defeat and remove the annoying broken link. It's not rocket science.

Microsoft do listen on occasion, though in this case it is unlikely.

The link isn't enabled by default and remains in case you run Start10 on an older Windows 10 release.  There are still some older versions being supported by Microsoft, not everyone is forced to update every 6 months.  Long term it will go away in Start10 too.

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Reply #11 April 20, 2019 7:51:27 AM
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Solution :

1: I used Bloatware Uninstaller for uninstalling Start10, also the registry leftovers where removed.

2: No restart, but Shutdown the computer

3: starting up the computer, than i take a look after start10 in Configuration screen under Apps, no tracks of Start10 anymore, so the program was good removed.

4: Running the install of 'Start10 1.70.exe' under my downloadmap from Stardock.

5: Start10 1.7 installs correctly in Windows 10 Pro 1903 with build number 18362.53

6: I opened Start10 to configure my Start10 Layout and Settings, they working correctly.

7: I restarded my computer and Start10 works fine

8: Object Desktop Manager doens't show up the 1.61 version installed it's now 1.7 version that showed up. ther is no more a conflict between the 2 versions in Object Desktop Manager anymore.

 

Hopefully this information may help other members.

Kind Regards,

Mike

 

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Reply #12 April 21, 2019 3:00:54 PM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 7


Quoting sedblue,
reply 6

FYI... I'm getting this BattlEye error while running Atlas game after updating to Start10 v1.7:

 

21:51:19: Starting BattlEye Service...

21:51:22: Launching game...

21:51:25: Note: File blocks can be ignored if they don't cause problems with the game.

21:51:25: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Start10\start10_64.dll".



Is it causing issues with the game?  It says you can ignore that message if it is not causing problems.

 

Hi Neil,

Atlas game is functioning normally, but I was concerned that Start10 might have been disabled.

When I Alt-Tab from Atlas, Start10 does appear to be working fine.

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Reply #13 April 27, 2019 2:01:08 AM
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with Issues on the New Release. I miss not having it working at All.

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Reply #14 May 2, 2019 12:57:22 PM
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Seems 1.7 crashes Windows 10 every few hours.. Have uninstalled it so far so good, lets see what happens. Will report back later, with more diags.

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Reply #15 May 2, 2019 1:18:01 PM
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Quoting JohnneyBoy,
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Seems 1.7 crashes Windows 10 every few hours.. Have uninstalled it so far so good, lets see what happens. Will report back later, with more diags.

Hello

Would you Please try this PURGE:https://forums.stardock.com/486022/start10-support-faq#reinstalling

Reboot and ReInstall the latest version from your account https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products/

Reboot and Test then report back here please.

 

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Reply #16 May 2, 2019 3:21:43 PM
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No need to worry, can't find the key for it.. I know I brought it but can't find it on my download page. I'm sure I had start8 and then upgraded it, but it seems not, stardock gaslighting. so its deleted and gone..

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Reply #17 May 2, 2019 3:33:01 PM
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Quoting JohnneyBoy,
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No need to worry, can't find the key for it.. I know I brought it but can't find it on my download page. I'm sure I had start8 and then upgraded it, but it seems not, stardock gaslighting. so its deleted and gone..

Hello,

Sorry to hear you are having issues.

Try this link https://forums.stardock.com/484254/getting-your-products-and-keys

and report back if you still need assistance .

 


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Reply #18 February 14, 2020 10:35:38 PM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 7


Quoting sedblue,
reply 6

FYI... I'm getting this BattlEye error while running Atlas game after updating to Start10 v1.7:

 

21:51:19: Starting BattlEye Service...

21:51:22: Launching game...

21:51:25: Note: File blocks can be ignored if they don't cause problems with the game.

21:51:25: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Start10\start10_64.dll".



Is it causing issues with the game?  It says you can ignore that message if it is not causing problems.

 

Actually the Battleye error is causing issues. I don't even get the error message, but I know it is trying to block the start10_64.dll. And because of that it is causing the whole start menu, taskbar and system tray to refresh when running a battleye game like Fortnite, PUBG, The Crew 2 and Ghost Recon Breakpoint. And the refresh causes a force quit on multiple programs. These programs are for example Corsair iCue, TeamSpeak, MSI Afterburner and NZXT Cam. And the only way to fix this is by logging out and in again to Windows or restarting your computer. This didn't happen on earlier version of Start10 which is a huge problem for me.

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Reply #19 February 15, 2020 3:08:38 AM
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Blocking a dll loading into the game will not cause any impact to explorer.

It sounds like the latest version of battleeye is causing explorer to crash and those apps have not been designed to handle an explorer restart to recreate their system tray icons.

This is unlikely to be anything to do with start10.

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Reply #20 February 15, 2020 2:47:36 PM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
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Blocking a dll loading into the game will not cause any impact to explorer.

It sounds like the latest version of battleeye is causing explorer to crash and those apps have not been designed to handle an explorer restart to recreate their system tray icons.

This is unlikely to be anything to do with start10.

 

I find that hard to believe. Because this wasn't a problem until I updated from 1.6 to 1.7.

This problem began right after I upgraded to 1.7 and has been a problem even on version 1.8. So I have been forced to uninstall every game I have that uses Battleye protection because of that. I have also already sent 2 mails to Battleye with a detailed description about this problem and have not received any response. And those 2 mails have been sent with a long time passing between them.

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