Galatic Civilization III founding and Steam » Forum Post by borsook

Quoting Illauna,

other bs systems where you can only activate on E.A.'s favorite: 1 to 3 computers ever or rebuy the game.

Strange, I've installed many of my EA games tens of times with no problem. I guess I must not've gotten the 'you can't do that' memo so frequently passed around as truth when it couldn't be further from it.

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On the other note, GalCiv3 being DX10/11 and 64 bit only made me a customer again. I was planning on skipping Stardocks next game, and now I'm not.

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My system is 64bit; but my OS is Vista any hope that it will run on Vista? or will I have to update my desktp 64 bit systems OS? my laptop (XPS M1710) is running Win7 but it is 32bit so do I have to update my desktop system (Vista 64bit)?

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Illauna

Join Date 09/2006

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Depends if you have 32 or 64 bit Vista. I believe there is even a 64 bit xp. Right click on Computer and select properties it will tell you. But yes you would have to "update" to vista. Honestly I really do not recommend this route in your situation Sugien. Just spend the $100(?) for Win 7 64 bit. Stay away from Win 8

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Island Dog

Join Date 06/2003

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There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, and it's performance is better. If you are going to upgrade, go Windows 8.

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Frogboy

Join Date 03/2001

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Quoting Island Dog,

reply 54

There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, and it's performance is better. If you are going to upgrade, go Windows 8.

I don't like Windows 8. But its miles beyond Windows XP or Windows Vista.

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Quoting Meth,

reply 49

Quoting borsook_bearro, reply 44But how is that a problem? so a family member can use your computer and play your games if you don't log out...seems rather logical.

Except you don't get to pick what to share and what not to. I happen to like Rogue-like games where when you start the game it automatically continues and when you exist it saves and when you die your save is deleted. If someone (family member, guest, whatever) decided they want to take a look at that game and see what it is they could very well ruin many hours of play. Lets say you actually care about the achievements, then you're family members could earn them instead of you. How about having kids that shouldn't be playing certain games that aren't age appropriate. There are any number of reasons and multi-user OS's aren't new, this stuff have been solved long ago Steam is just poorly implemented. That's beside the point though. Some people don't like steam for any number of reasons and it would be nice they offered another option as well for those of us that don't. At the very least they could actually make it clear all you get is a steam version instead of tiny print on the bottom of the page.

Well, if all of this is such a problem for you how about you log out of steam? This is the root of the problem here, you left your account logged in. Of course there are other workarounds possible, I for one have all my saves hardlinked to a dropbox account. Of course I am not saying there is no need for improvement in the way steam handles this, there surely is.

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Quoting Island Dog,

reply 54

There's nothing wrong with Windows 8, and it's performance is better. If you are going to upgrade, go Windows 8.

That's not always a good recommendation. I did it and all the USB 3 ports stopped working, upon investigating it appeared to be a common problem, in win 8 all the USB 3 drivers are written by Microsoft and not hardware manufacturers. So check compatibility before you upgrade.

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My desktop pc came with 64bit Vista pre-installed, so if GC3 will run on 64bit Vista then I will be ok

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Borg999

Join Date 02/2006

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How do you check what directX version you have on your computer?

Where can DirectX 10 be downloaded from?

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Open the start menu, and search for dxdiag, then run that. You can also do it from the cmd prompt but typing the same thing.

http://search.microsoft.com/en-us/DownloadResults.aspx?q=directx

DirectX 11 is supported in Windows 8 and Windows 7. In Windows Vista, DirectX 11 is only supported after installation of a "platform update"

DirectX 10 is supported in Windows 8, Windows 7, and Windows Vista.

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------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 10/16/2013, 20:17:42 Machine name: GAMEING Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.130308-1436) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard System Model: PPPPPPP-CCC#MMMMMMMM BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9750 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz Memory: 8184MB RAM Page File: 2763MB used, 13812MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 64bit Unicode

I should have no problems then

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Borg999

Join Date 02/2006

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Quoting Lamech777,

reply 60

Open the start menu, and search for dxdiag, then run that. You can also do it from the cmd prompt but typing the same thing.

http://search.microsoft.com/en-us/DownloadResults.aspx?q=directx

DirectX 11 is supported in Windows 8 and Windows 7. In Windows Vista, DirectX 11 is only supported after installation of a "platform update"

DirectX 10 is supported in Windows 8, Windows 7, and Windows Vista.

Thanks!

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Galacticruler5000

Join Date 06/2010

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Quoting Lamech777,

reply 60

Open the start menu, and search for dxdiag, then run that. You can also do it from the cmd prompt but typing the same thing.

http://search.microsoft.com/en-us/DownloadResults.aspx?q=directx

DirectX 11 is supported in Windows 8 and Windows 7. In Windows Vista, DirectX 11 is only supported after installation of a "platform update"

DirectX 10 is supported in Windows 8, Windows 7, and Windows Vista.

only if supported by your GPU though.

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Quoting Picciu,

reply 41

Quoting sasha777, reply 36

I had to register on this forum because i cannot read this nonsense.

Please do not put your own limitations on other people!
Why should awrybody enjoy low res graphic and stupid AI and other compromises because u do not want to buy a new good computer?!

P.s.
I hope Stardock will continue to make the best possible games and will not compromise their games because of people like u.

Instead of argue with each other is more usefull to discuss the reason.

I myself not particularly like unreasonable requirement in games. So let's discuss that. I don't have issue with the only know requirement, I run a 64bit OS and my video card support DirectX 10 o 11.

But I believe that the reason for the 64 bit requirement is that the required ram will be more than 3Gb that is the max a 32bit OS could use.

I don't instead know the reason for the DirectX requirement.

Well i will agree with u that it is not good when there are unreasonable hardwere requairments in games, but if there is a reason we should not complain and Stardock should not cut any features just because to be able to run their games on all possible computers.
Meanwhile i am pretty shure Stardock will do their best to optimise the game requirments BUT WITH OUT CUTTING ANY FEATURES, or make some futures selectable so people with good hardware can use them and people with older computers can dissable them.
For example in Galactic Civilization 2 i remember they had a feature which could increse the AI intellegence but it reqaired a better CPU, but people who did not have better CPU could just disable it….

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Quoting borsook_bearro,

reply 44

Quoting Meth, reply 43

Quoting borsook_bearro, reply 42
run steam at start-up? and offers can be disabled, there are options you know.

Except Steam is a poorly implemented piece of software for a multi-user environment. If you have it log in automatically that setting is stored for ALL users instead of in your own profile. This means every user of that computer (even guest!) will be able to play your games. I have no idea why they haven't fixed this by now. It shouldn't be too hard to save the log-in info in the user profile but they seem to have no intention of fixing it.

But how is that a problem? so a family member can use your computer and play your games if you don't log out...seems rather logical.

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Quoting Meth,

reply 49

Quoting borsook_bearro, reply 44But how is that a problem? so a family member can use your computer and play your games if you don't log out...seems rather logical.

Except you don't get to pick what to share and what not to. I happen to like Rogue-like games where when you start the game it automatically continues and when you exist it saves and when you die your save is deleted. If someone (family member, guest, whatever) decided they want to take a look at that game and see what it is they could very well ruin many hours of play. Lets say you actually care about the achievements, then you're family members could earn them instead of you. How about having kids that shouldn't be playing certain games that aren't age appropriate. There are any number of reasons and multi-user OS's aren't new, this stuff have been solved long ago Steam is just poorly implemented. That's beside the point though. Some people don't like steam for any number of reasons and it would be nice they offered another option as well for those of us that don't. At the very least they could actually make it clear all you get is a steam version instead of tiny print on the bottom of the page.

U can tell ur family mambers not to touch soutern games. Problem solved!

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Quoting borsook_bearro,

reply 56

Well, if all of this is such a problem for you how about you log out of steam? This is the root of the problem here, you left your account logged in. Of course there are other workarounds possible, I for one have all my saves hardlinked to a dropbox account. Of course I am not saying there is no need for improvement in the way steam handles this, there surely is.

This makes no sense. Someone noted their dislike of having to log in before they could play a game and someone responded they could set it to auto-login. I was just pointing out that auto-login is not without issues so turning around and just suggesting you log out defeats the entire purpose of the side-note. Let me be clear also that this is just a side-note and not the main point of this discussion at all. I personally don't like steam and it's not just because of the inept way it handles multi-user setups, in fact that's a pretty minor reason. I'm not asking you to agree with me and dislike steam, you are free to love steam and I'm totally cool with that. I'm not asking for Stardock to NOT release the game on steam, I'm completely fine with there being a Steam release. All I'm asking for is that either the steam version not use DRM (i.e. it will run just find without steam running even if it is downloaded and updated through steam) or an alternate distribution method be provided (such as GoG) for those of us who prefer not to use steam. That's IN ADDITION, not in place of steam. I really don't understand why Steam fans are so upset someone would want to get a game another way. If you can have your steam version why do you care so much about preventing me from having a non-steam version? Just because people don't like the same things as you doesn't make you right and us wrong. Nor should we have to justify to you why we don't like something you like.

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Quoting Meth,

reply 67

Quoting borsook_bearro, reply 56
Well, if all of this is such a problem for you how about you log out of steam? This is the root of the problem here, you left your account logged in. Of course there are other workarounds possible, I for one have all my saves hardlinked to a dropbox account. Of course I am not saying there is no need for improvement in the way steam handles this, there surely is.

This makes no sense. Someone noted their dislike of having to log in before they could play a game and someone responded they could set it to auto-login. I was just pointing out that auto-login is not without issues so turning around and just suggesting you log out defeats the entire purpose of the side-note. Let me be clear also that this is just a side-note and not the main point of this discussion at all. I personally don't like steam and it's not just because of the inept way it handles multi-user setups, in fact that's a pretty minor reason. I'm not asking you to agree with me and dislike steam, you are free to love steam and I'm totally cool with that. I'm not asking for Stardock to NOT release the game on steam, I'm completely fine with there being a Steam release. All I'm asking for is that either the steam version not use DRM (i.e. it will run just find without steam running even if it is downloaded and updated through steam) or an alternate distribution method be provided (such as GoG) for those of us who prefer not to use steam. That's IN ADDITION, not in place of steam. I really don't understand why Steam fans are so upset someone would want to get a game another way. If you can have your steam version why do you care so much about preventing me from having a non-steam version? Just because people don't like the same things as you doesn't make you right and us wrong. Nor should we have to justify to you why we don't like something you like.

I'm sorry but do you have any of the new Stardock games? i.e. after GalCiv2? If not you should know that their policy is to require you to log in into your stardock account before you can run the game, you have to it with steam version also. As the point you're making is a bit moot, really the whole issue has nothing to do with steam. If they wanted to they could use steam to distribute the game and allow running it without steam, as it is they require additional login that has nothing to do with Steam...

For the record - I would love them to distribute it on gog, provided it is on steam too...

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So is Steam necessary for GalCivIII? Or is it enough to have a Stardock account?

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Gaunathor

Join Date 04/2006

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Quoting borsook_bearro,

reply 68

I'm sorry but do you have any of the new Stardock games? i.e. after GalCiv2? If not you should know that their policy is to require you to log in into your stardock account before you can run the game, you have to it with steam version also.

You have to do a one-time online-activation before you can play a Stardock-game. Part of that is registering the game with your Stardock-account. You don't have to log into your account every time you want to play though.

Quoting Darklor,

reply 69

So is Steam necessary for GalCivIII? Or is it enough to have a Stardock account?

GalCiv 3 is a Steamworks-game, so Steam will be required. Frogboy has also stated here, that they won't make a non-Steamworks version. The only question remaining is, if the game will require the Steam-client to be running in order to play.

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Quoting Gaunathor,

reply 70

Quoting borsook_bearro, reply 68I'm sorry but do you have any of the new Stardock games? i.e. after GalCiv2? If not you should know that their policy is to require you to log in into your stardock account before you can run the game, you have to it with steam version also.

You have to do a one-time online-activation before you can play a Stardock-game. Part of that is registering the game with your Stardock-account. You don't have to log into your account every time you want to play though.

Quoting Darklor, reply 69So is Steam necessary for GalCivIII? Or is it enough to have a Stardock account?

GalCiv 3 is a Steamworks-game, so Steam will be required. Frogboy has also stated here, that they won't make a non-Steamworks version. The only question remaining is, if the game will require the Steam-client to be running in order to play.

I'm not sure about that, seems that FE logs me in every time I run it, so I don't have to log on, but there is autologon...

If it's not only steam but steamworks then yes, it will require steam to be running. Personally I have no issue, I start non-steam games using steam too.

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bah nevermind. Anyways, game will be great, and steam is just as fine a platform as any other.

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I agree

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I wonder if we will have to create new characters etc or can we carry existing GalCiv2 info over

http://metaverse.galciv2.com/index.aspx?g=empire&id=642

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Hi.

I bought pre-order for 40$, but i have a window without any key. Am i doing something wrong? Will it appears in the future or what?

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