That doesnt mean one isnt better than the other. Take COD for example; its a completely different game from Sins, but compared to Sins it sucks. Please dont waste your breath people if you arent going to answer my question. Jeez, its okay to have an opinion about something.

Ok, you CAN compare the quality of two games, no matter how unlikely they are. According to the "definition" youve set for game quality, that means theres not such thing as a sucky game or mod which doesn make sense. There IS such a thing as a wrong opinion, its just not so easy to prove wrong as opposed to fact.

But... it doesnt even matter if Im right or not because neither of you are going to answer my question anyways. Neither of you want to badmouth the other's mod.

Best answer to this question is to try out both mods and see for yourself. Thats all I can say.

Dude, shut the fuck up.  You're wasting everyone's time on these forums.  Thread after thread, you're just picking fights.  Fuck off already.  Jesus Christ you're starting to annoy the hell out of me.  There.  You have my opinion.  Happy now?  Where's that negative Karma button I keep asking for...  Or give me forum admin powers so I can get rid of comments that are clearly deserving to be deleted...  I may be an asshole, but I'm always fair.

Try reading, dumbass.  He gave his opinion.  If that requires too much abstract thinking on your part, let me break it down in terms that you and my almost 4 year old niece can clearly understand.  The guy with the spaceship for a picture works on one, his opinion is that his is better, that is why he keeps on working on it.  The guy with the man for a picture likes his best, that is why he keeps working on his.  That is why there are two, rather then them combining efforts and making one.  They want different things, they each like their own better, there are two mods because of it.

Like everyone said, which is best depends on what you want to get out of it.  They share resources and help each other out often.  They're going to be on par with each other in quality.  Play them both and decide for your damned self rather then bitching at everyone here for not going to the polling centers and casting a vote.  No one wants to do that.  No one cares.  I like Star Wars, even Jar Jar.  Yes people laugh at me when I say that, but that goofy fool cracks me up.  I have copies of both Star Wars mods.  I like both.  Neither one is my favorite.  I develop three other mods.  I've helped out in some capacity with half a dozen more.  In fact, I'm not in the minority, I'm actually in the majority of the modding population that lends time and expertise to other mods.  Why do I?  Because I think they're all great, they all do different things, none of them are any better then the others...  And that includes 7 Deadly Sins.  End of story.

And now for the off topic crap.

No he's not saying that, you're saying that.  Everyone has an opinion, clearly you shouldn't be allowed to have one, but the rest of us are.  Goa is right.  My opinion is probably different then yours, doesn't make mine right, doesn't make it wrong either, just like you have your opinions unfortunately, doesn't mean yours are right, doesn't mean they are wrong, even though they probably are.  They are just opinions.  Some are more based in fact then others, but they are opinions and not facts therefor they cannot be judged as right and wrong.  We all argue our opinions all of the time.  It's perfectly fine in most cases.  In fact, in some cases it is demanded.  This situation isn't either of those.  You've got 4 answers, all 4 answers declined to pick one over the other and instead are telling you to stop being a bitch and make your own choice.

He's not arguing anything.  You're attacking him, he's defending himself.  Your opinion on what an opinion is, is the same things as what his is, which is the same thing as what my opinion of an opinion is.  There is no contradiction in his logic.  He said opinions vary greatly, and what is great/sucky for one person is not the same for another.  That is absolute fact you troll.  I prefer strategy/RPG games.  My brother prefers first person shooters.  I love the shit out of Ogre Battle, he loves the shit out of Halo.  He says Ogre Battle is too slow and boring, I say Halo has weak game play and no replay value.  Which one of us is right?  Oh that's right, those are both opinions.  Neither is right, neither is wrong.  We can argue until we're blue in the face and the only thing we will have proven is that we like different games.  Coincidentally, we both love to coop that old arcade game Rampage and do the damage up quite nicely whenever I break out the old NES for shits and giggles.  The only difference in opinions here is you want to be told what to think, and Goa doesn't care if you like his more or not, and neither does Lavo.  The simple fact that you're interested is a win for them both.

They both said they are Star Wars mods.  That in and of itself is admission by both that they are alike.  This point of yours is a moot one.

That is a statement of opinion, not a matter of fact.  Let me teach you what facts look like.  Fact is one takes what's available in the movies and balances it according to the stock races so they can be played against each other on equal ground.  Fact is, the other scraps the core game and uses only what is available in the Star Wars universe and balances according to officially accepted standards of that universe.  Fact is, both mods will play different.  Do you see the difference here?  My statements are easily proved as reality or false, yours cannot be proven as either because while you say there is little difference, the rest of us say there is actually quite a bit of differences.  Neither statement can be proven as fact or fiction due to the fact that we all have different standards for what a little or a lot of changes are, and are thus opinions.  Thus concludes your first grade education, would you like your mommy to take you by the hand and walk you to your next classroom now so the guy by the windowless van giving out free candy doesn't kidnap you, sweetheart?  Clearly you need to be walked by the hand since you're not capable of even a simple task such as playing two mods and deciding for yourself...

Again, opinion.  Based on the majority of people here you have the wrong opinion, so shut up already.  You've been told what the differences are.  You know what the similarities are.  You want to know which is better and why?  Here is the moral of this story: Play it your god damned self and figure it out rather then bitching.  You can come back here when you're done and tell us all about it.

Either you are a troll or you're a fucking idiot. No, Goa is right, it boils down to opinions as Requiem and Sins of a Galactic Empire are aiming for different things. One wants to expand stock Sins gameplay, the other wants to create a more "Star Wars-y" feel. The two mods are extremely different. How do I know this? I'm staff for one and have played and looked at the code the other; I damn well know whether the two mods are different or not. If you want an opinion, here's mine: If you like the way stock Sins plays and simply want an "expanded" Sins with Star Wars, go with Requiem, and if you want something that throws vanilla gameplay out the window and gives you something different and new, go with Sins of a Galactic Empire, as Stant123 elaborated in more detail. My first post answered your question clearly; it entirely depends on if you care for vanilla gameplay or not.

I write well though out (I think anyways) helpful inputs to these games and get ignored. lol

This asshole comes along and is taking you all along for a ride....ignore him.

I'd like to take a moment out to applaud the Sins community for managing to provide constructive, well thought out and helpful information even in the face of such intense rage. It really is remarkable!

And trust me, as someone who's yet to play either mod but has both sitting in my mod list waiting for me to try them out, this thread genuinely has been very helpful. Cheers!

While this is primarily a hardcoded issue, the "Enlarged" series of random maps helps with the issue somewhat by trying to force a sort of "wall" of tech 1-3 planets (aka. ones that aren't extremely tough to break through and require either the Arctic colonization tech or no tech at all). It isn't the best I admit, but with how the engine is, it's the best I can do.

That's wrong; allegiance is a big portion of SoGE gameplay, by "eliminating" it you'd heavily nerf the capability of people to use culture to their advantage, in addition to making resources even more abundant. Though I will note that I did tweak allegiance not too long ago, making the cut off point 50% instead of 25% and making it decrease more gradually.

Most people would actually disagree with you that Coronas are useful at all (the NR does not have the Nebulon-B or B2); surprisingly you're among the few who see value in frigates, unless you are referring to something else. The MC Heavy Carrier is the best cruiser in the game, in pure upfront combat, but then again it's also the most supply-heavy cruiser in the game as well.

Defenses make this somewhat invalid. Even having a handful of Turbolaser Defenses make a massive difference, due to their powerful single-target firepower. When focused on a single target they can take it out pretty quickly; this is particularly important with targets that give fleet-wide benefits, such as the Jedi Venator. Not only that but this is even more prominent with the Republic faction, which iirc you said your brother was playing as.

The closest you'll get to that is the mini-underground window; this isn't exactly possible due to engine limitations.

The research images are how they are mainly as well, we simply don't have that many and I've personally been the one doing the majority of work on research, and pretty much everything sans planets and models, for over a year now, and while I agree the overuse of images are an issue, I'm more focused on trying to get varying research between races period, as it's simply too similar now. That isn't to say I'm ignoring it mind you. As for the research descriptions, I don't really see the issue here; it's clear what the research does and, in the majority of cases, ships/structures/etc which ships are affected by it.

As for the ship descriptions, which ones are you talking about? The counterdesc or the ship's desc? If the former, this is primarily due to the widespread multi-role abilties of Star Wars ships; while some ships were meant with specific roles in mind, such as anti-starfighter protection, there is barely any "X ship has X damage bonus against Y ship". In fact, SoGE completely does away with this, most ships have the same damage type for their primarily Turbolasers, CapitalShip, and those with missiles as their primary have AntiVeryHeavy as their damage type. Most secondary lasers are set to AntiMedium. While you might find this odd or imbalanced at first, this is the nature of a total conversion and Star Wars in particular.

As well, with descriptions, I'm always open to suggestions for new ones. Heck, if you write them up, don't be surprised if they end up ingame!

The construction thumbnails are a WIP; I was forced to release 2.0E earlier than I had planned due to persisting personal issues. I'll have most of these fixed up in the next patch.

From what I gather in this post, I believe you'd be more pleased with the overall "quality" of Requiem more.

Well my brother was the empire and I was the NR. My older brother was also frustrated with the mod because of how ridiculously slow it is. I mean it isnt even an issue of me being impatient, its just that it is really really slow. By the nebulons I mean the NRs equal to the empires star destroyers aka it looks sort of like a star destroyer. Maybe thats what your talking about being a corona or something and Ive gotten it mixed up. Also I think Ive got a few ideas you might be able to use. In my recent thread about empire management, Ive put a prototype thread about invasion forces.

Also, if your up for a few other suggestions then Ill say id like to see faction heroes like in EAW, as well as the space stations from EAW. Actually theres alot of material you could use from EAW unless theres something that keeps you from doing that of course. Im talking death star, darth vader, palpatine, han, chewie, luke, kyle katarn, the whole lot. Maybe you were already planning that. And if the torpedo spheres are meant to replace the death star... thats just...

Anyways I dont mean to say I dont appreciate the efforts you and other modders have put into it. I just wanted to give a list of grievances, and perhaps find a better mod to go to. Even if requiem does turn out to be more clean cut quality, I might turn back to Galactic if I start missing it.

And this is where the EaW modding community comes in. EaW is a surprising decent platform for those SW modders since it is relatively easy to code to change up values and basic things. The modding community is the only thing that really keeps this game alive.

A lot of the currently active mods have greatly increased the "cannon" of the game to their respective eras as well as gave greater detail and eyecandy.

Btw what you gonna give Rouge Squadron as an ultimate? Make them shoot proton torpedos to one shot capitals as well as give massive durablity against all starfighters and flak frigates?

Something really weird happened during the development of EaW, its like they were going to use the existing vehicles and ships, but they suddenly switched to the new stuff for unknown reasons. I like EaW and FoC in concept, but they just did so many weird things with them, the choice of units is so limited, and the Zann Consortium was little more than Petroglyph's dream team. The creation of Mandal Hypernautics when MandalMotors already existed, and the early deployment of the StarViper-class attack platform are two of the biggest discrepancies. The Zann Consortium could have been done without things like corruption and black market tech being so OP, and the only thing I really liked about them was the Mandalorian tech they used. Mods like Phoenix Rising and UEaW are what make EaW worth it.