Wow 1.3 sounds awesome.

Tactical AI changes+Strategic AI changes

Nice

No more training of individual units (4 will be the new minimum)

Seems like this will take alot of work, especially in regards to balance. However it will make armies seem much larger and help differeniate heroes.  A very nice change, and balance needs work anyway.

No requirement for buildings to build a unit (buidings will enhance units but not be a requirement)

They are kinda pointless as is ya. Stacks are no longer unstoppable.

FOW will matter more (money generation)

Not sure what you mean. Fow= Fog of War?

Changes in the food/housing/prestige mechanic: Food/Housing = faster population growth rather than being a cap.

But what will monuments/inns do? Hopefully cities still end up full of housing. What's to stop you from killing all your houses when your city reaches max level. I see what your attempting here but I have my doubts. It does however remove the all importance of food.


More cities = lower prestige.

A nice touch. Never had a problem with this though personally. I tend to concentrate on just a few cities.

Notable locations + Quests can be searched regardless of level.

Yeah an end to the fustrating clutter. Hopefully there is still a reason to research quests.

Random Events

Should be rare and important. If they are too common they will be bland and repetitive. They should come out of nowhere and skew some facet of the game. Chaos and oppurtunity should ensue. Should be rare and varied enough that they make every game different and interesting.

I really don't like people coming into my topics and bringing negativity.  Could you please create your own topic for this, thank you.  I would like to hear more about the changes that are being made.  I am grateful that Stardock is continuing to show support for the game, they could just be like every other company and not do anything to make it better.  But what has Brad done?  He's hired new staff, a freaking super team to both improve WoM and to work on the new games in the Elemental franchise.  AND he's giving those new games to us for free.  No, it's not everything we could want, but it's more than I would expect from a company.  So, I understand you disagree, and I have made several post in the past that mirror your thoughts, so I do understand where you are coming from, but that time has passed for me.  So I ask, that if you want to continue this negativity, could you please create your own thread for it.

No more training of individual units (4 will be the new minimum)

Wait.... is this going to happen to bandits and darklings to? That would be cool. Rawr, killer monster stacks!

I would posit that this thread is the "exact" place for any opposing viewpoints.

All the pros and cons should be in the same place, so that all can see them and that they all have the same validity.

<insert "U mad, bro?" meme here>

I actually agree with you, but that was a little over the top.

Just because you disagree doesn't make someone's point invalid. Especially when the subject at hand is entirely based on opinions. It's not like he was trying to claim that water doesn't contain hydrogen.

I'm bored with all the repetitive ranting around here too, but a healthy share of that is cheerleading. Endless posts of breathless praise are as useless as stuck-in-a-rut griping. The proof will be in the builds, and it isn't time for pudding yet.

?Does Xia count as a troll even though it is his thread? I'm never going to be able to keep up with this moving-target netiquette stuff...

You shouldn't worry about scaring away Stardock devs. They're a very hardy lot. Particularly strong in resisting pleas for more info.

Sorry about being a jerk, I'm tired.

Hah! I knew your love of Song of Ice and Fire would pay off eventually. I don't know if I'll like 1.3 very much, but I like it already just because of your aspirations for 1.4.

Agreed, I should have kept out the negativity and simply asked my "what else is going to be

Fair enough, I should have cut the negativity and simply asked my specific question about things like "content" and the dynasty system.. sorry for sh!tting on your thread.

But also, in my defense, Froggy pretty much answered my questions which make me think HE at least thought my opposing opinion was worthy enough of an answer.

Though it seems odd to me that if people don't like 1.3 they'll just give up on it, but I guess when you pretty much have three dudes working on it, not much more you can do though makes me wonder what happened to the work-on-it-until-it's-done-right attitude that Stardock seems to get so much historical credit for in this forum? But as you said.. I'll leave your post alone with my sandy clam-ness.

Would love to hear what sort of ideas they have about random events... any hints? It's the most appealing thing to come out of the potential 1.3 updates.

To put what he said in better context, it sounded as if he wasn't so much against people disliking it as he was against people "crapping" on it.

I imagine it must be extremely disheartening to see people doing everything they can to find fault, complain and basically just proclaim how much they hate a game. And despite the fact that Stardock not only apologised for past mistakes as well as gone to INCREDIBLE lengths to set things right, there are still those who say it isn't enough, question whether they can trust Stardock to continue support (no matter how many versions they release) or melodramatically claim that it'll never be enough.

Even I grow weary of the negative posts and I'm not even a Dev. Mind you, I'm not against constructive criticism.

Brad,

Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions (so often!).

I think I can speak for others here when I say if we didn't really care about this game and have at least some level of emotional attachment to it, we wouldn't harp on the aspects we think it needs.

Each of our pet wishes for this game are the things that we think will really improve the game and help move it from good to great.

If we thought EWoM was a lost cause, we would have moved on by now.

I am not ready to give up on this game.

Edit: Oh, and Alborrelli, GW Swicord and others, thanks for being the loyal opposition and keep it up. That role is a vital one that helps maintain balance when the emperor is naked.