Acctually you just need to setup a refuse stockpile outside. Simple.

Watch the captnduck or 51ppycup tutorial vids on youtube, they're fantastic.

Back on topic:

Civ V was a let down but that will hopefully be fixed as time goes on, don't forget that Civ IV without the massive ammount of patches and 2 expansions isn't that great either.

E:WoM was an absolutely huge letdown, not because of the balance issues or anything mechanics wise but just because of the constant crashes.

It IS stardock afterall so I've got no worries about game mechanics, they'll be fixed and polished to perfection in due course but the stability was absolutey abysmal, I just could not play the game.

Loved 2.  Loved 4.  Been playing since the original.  Not sure if I gave up more of my life to 2 or 4.  

There are a few problems with 5.  The AI was terrible.  For a game that was touting its new war mechanics as one of its major advancements over its amazing lineage the combat was trite.  You can gimmick your way around just about any closely even "battle".  I also found the "every unit a boat" mechanic dumb.  Planning an sea invasion of a neighboring country is something you should have to invest resources and planning in.  Not just grab the army you just used to conquer your territorial neighbor, toss them into the ocean, and invade your island neighbor.   

I also found the interface tedious.  There were way too many times where I found myself frustrated as I tried to do things and had to remember that the way they designed the interface was counterintuitive to the way I expected it to work.  Maybe that's just me, but even so it happened a ton.  

There were certainly some things I enjoyed about it and some potential innovations to the series that I'd like to see them keep (city states, no stacks of doom to name two) but I'll maybe check it out after I see an expansion or two and some polish and improvement.  It had absolutely no "one more turn" value to me.  I found myself struggling to complete games. I think I finished three games.  Came back after one of the big patches, found it not improved at all, and didn't finish the game.  Saw they completed another big patch this past week (or the one before).  I may try it again after the holidays, but I'm not holding my breath.   Some of the problems are patchable (AI) and some are design based (boats).  

Long story short Civ 5 just felt like Civ-Lite with a crappy interface.  

Civilisation V was everything I feared it would be.  Owning, and loving, Civilisation IV, there is no reason for me to purchase Civilisation V.  They took more out than they put in, and the game just feels ... weak.  The move away from Stacks-of-Doom opened up some interesting combat opportunities that were entirely squandered.  Steamworks certainly didn't help it's cause.

Elemental wasn't as good as it should have been, with 1.1 being what should have shipped at release, however seeing how far it's come already only makes me stare into the yonder with glinting eyes of hope.

For me, the most disappointing game of the year was easily Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty.  No contest.  Usually, I just answer SPORE - as the game was such a massive disappointment for me that it shall forever more be the most disappointing game of any year.  This year though, I gotta give credit where credit is due.  Starcraft II's single player campaign was terrible in ways I never thought possible; with 10 years of time between installments, I expected a real sequel.  What we got was Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos's first campaign's (of four) Story stretched wafer thin over a 15-20 hour game and polygons.  The streamlined UI only hides the marignally altered Rosters; they could have had the same gameplay impact with an expansion pack 8 years ago.  It's multiplayer side is cold and lifeless; no chat channels at launch, regionally restricted player base - including forums, worthless map editor, worthless custom game system and the complete lack of any social feature bar Facebook integration for their self-proclaimed 'Social Network'.  Blizzard, the company who never made a bad game, lost their sheen this year for me.

I disagree.  Vanilla Civ 4 is one of the best strategy games ever made.  The expansion packs simply take a great game and make it better. 

Wow.

I mean... just... wow.

I'm glad GameSpot will be making the decisions on most disappointing game, instead of some of the fanboys here (who are trying to appear to have a non-biased point of view by saying Elemental was a little disappointing but every other game released this year is horrible). Civ 5? SC2? Perhaps not classics, but...

Just wow people.

But that's because most people (especially kids) play the games when they're new and thus rate them after a week or so.

Yep I have to agree I was very disappointed in this game as of right now because I was sold on the "Successor to MoM".  The only reason why I have stuck around is to see what Stardock does with it is because the community is very active and I see Stardock listening.  As of right now this game and impulse are taking up space on my hard drive because after 3 games of v1.1 and having not the slightest bit of fun or desire to play due to lack of magic, AI, character creation, game imbalances, tech trees, bugs, useless land space that have no meaning and much more than I prefer to type.  I will give it up to v1.2 or the first expansion after that it will be uninstalled at that point if it cannot draw me in for that just one more turn feeling.

I think this is part of the reason why I have tended to not be as negative.  I can judge this game on its own merits, since I never played for or cared to play MoM.

"That being said, all expectations and sequels and such aside, Elemental has come a long way since 1.0 and as of 1.1 I'd put it in the same ballpark as Civ5."

With all credit to Stardock and Elemental with the speed at which this ship is turning, to me stating that Elemental and CivV are in the same ballpark quality-wise seems like a pretty damn big insult to the guys at Firaxis. I won't write more because statements like that make me a bit angry at the fanboyism and I might write something I regret later. All I'll say is that you should stop for a minute and think.

Okay, I'll continue a little bit more. I don't question some people enjoying Elemental in its current state, but to me as a developer and an all-around supporter of good quality games, slamming the guys at Firaxis this way is really pretty damn rude. I know we're not on the Civ forums but please have some respect at what the guys over there have done. Sure, the game has crap for AI and especially because of this is a big disappointment, but it's still a complete, working game with a lot of cool mechanics.

• some people prefer Elemental to Civ V.
• some people like Elemental as much as Civ V.

(aside from the usuals of "some people prefer Civ V" or "some people hate Elemental AND Civ V")

You done with your firaxis fan boyism? Cause Civ V is crap. It ruined the series and its integrated with steamworks. Firaxis and all their fanbois can kiss my arse. Not only did they go TOTALLY AGAINST the very design philosophies that Civ was built on..they still stuck sids name on it and sold it to us when its purely anti Cid design wise. Its not that the AI is stupid.. its that the design philosophy is. Things like AI that tries to play like other players is something Cid speaks out against in every game design speech he's ever given. Yet they ignore him (and the design philosophy of the ENTIRE FRANCHISE) and do wtf they wanted, slap his name on it and wonder why fans of the series are pissed.

Probably why Civ V Lead designer Jon Shafer is no longer with firaxis not even 3 months after civ V was released. Last time i saw a lead designer booted so quickly it was.. Brad . So ya I would put them on the same level.

Lets see. Game is released. People are disappointed, Lead designer gets replaced. 

Its a carbon copy only the CIV name on the box and "critics" who have never played Civ before and played it for an hour before writing the review saved it from financial ruin

But heres the big difference. The core design issues in Civ V aren't going anywhere and these are the problems that most detractors have issues with. Atleast with elemental we see them changing core design issues to address the overall problems of the game. Not to mention openness with the player base. You know actually conversing with the fans instead of having some paid PR rep trying to upsell everything and ignoring the real issues.

Lastly the discussion is most disappointing GAME... what part of that did you not understand. In case you don't fully understand what that entails it means fell short of expectations. Its natural that a game with such a long history and large fanbase would have far higher expectations than elemental did. Meaning its far easier for it to disappoint. Even easier when they Ignore the design philosophy that BUILT the series.

/endrant

P.S. I'm aware that Cids name is actually Sid.. however I've played far too many final fantasies in my life so it always comes out with a C. Speaking of franchises that are falling from grace...

I think some people are confusing "Which game was less finished" with "which game is more disappointing" when comparing Civ V and Elemental.  

Elemental was obviously less finished.  I don't think a single Stardock employee would disagree with that statement.  The problem is that Civ V was finished (with bad AI) coupled with the fact that Civ V has the legacy of some of the best computer games ever to live up to.  Is it unfair to hold them up to Civ 2 or Civ 4 after they were patched and expanded?  Maybe.  But too bad.  That's what expectations are.  The game was finished and was finished poorly.  

Civ V, with the exception of AI, was a complete polished game when launched.  It was disappointing partially because of bad AI, but also because of horrid design decisions and a terrible UI.  Take those things, throw them against massive expectations, and you have a major disappointment. 

Does Elemental have many of the same problems?  Sure.  But they aren't the same studio that developed MoM.  They call Elemental the spiritual successor, which means that MoM is their inspiration.  If anything their expectations come from GalCiv.  

Brad isn't the same designer as the MoM team.  Sid Meier is the same guy from all the Civilization games.  Civ V needs a partial redesign much like Elemental went through with 1.1 (and 1.2?).  The difference is that they won't acknowledge it and we'll never see it.  You see patches to fix patchable flaws (AI) but you won't see a redesign to fix mechanic flaws.  

Elemental was certainly disappointing.  It just wasn't Civ V disappointing.