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So my enemy's economy was tanking bad!

November 19, 2010 12:54:04 AM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

So, I was at war with Umber, and a couple of times I talked to him to try to negotiate peace.  I noticed that the first time I did, he had about -8000 gildar...then later we spoke again, and he had -14,000 gildar!  

 

How was that happening and shouldn't it have some negative effect on his empire?  He was kicking my butt by the way.

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Reply #1 November 19, 2010 5:14:17 AM
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idk--I'm not that smart (maybe Heavenfall knows?). I've never seen a negative balance of gildar--let alone one of that amount. It was my understanding--according to the manual--that troops would revolt or go on strike if they didn't get paid. Sounds like a glitch...1.1 is right around the corner anyway

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Reply #2 November 19, 2010 6:05:38 AM
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Quoting Phylast57,
reply 1
idk--I'm not that smart (maybe Heavenfall knows?). I've never seen a negative balance of gildar--let alone one of that amount. It was my understanding--according to the manual--that troops would revolt or go on strike if they didn't get paid. Sounds like a glitch...1.1 is right around the corner anyway


How to tell when you're playing a game too much; someone randomly references your name on the forums (as a source of knowledge), and you see it and reply within the hour.

For players, you'll start losing units after 20 turns without being able to pay them. But for a player, it would be impossible to go from -8000 to -14000 without mods. I'm guessing the AI just isn't fiscally responsible. It's also possible that he somehow created a unit that was worth a loooooooot of gildar. The wages for that unit would be huge.

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Reply #3 November 19, 2010 7:33:03 AM
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Quoting Heavenfall,
reply 2



Quoting Phylast57,
reply 1
idk--I'm not that smart (maybe Heavenfall knows?). I've never seen a negative balance of gildar--let alone one of that amount. It was my understanding--according to the manual--that troops would revolt or go on strike if they didn't get paid. Sounds like a glitch...1.1 is right around the corner anyway



How to tell when you're playing a game too much; someone randomly references your name on the forums (as a source of knowledge), and you see it and reply within the hour.

For players, you'll start losing units after 20 turns without being able to pay them. But for a player, it would be impossible to go from -8000 to -14000 without mods. I'm guessing the AI just isn't fiscally responsible. It's also possible that he somehow created a unit that was worth a loooooooot of gildar. The wages for that unit would be huge.

It might also be a return of the infinite deficit spending bug. Which would explain the AI asskickery, infinite cash will give even the worst AI a leg up.

 

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Reply #4 November 19, 2010 8:01:13 AM
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I've been in the negative before - at that rate - he should have had no army

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Reply #5 November 19, 2010 10:01:40 AM
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I've seen the AI be able to draft tons of stacks of Scions and throw them at me endlessly while they go tens of thousands into debt with no penalty.  It was the first threat the game posed in a long time, even if it was cheap.  I used real cheap tactics to beat them.  So over all, it wasn't a real fulfilling fight.

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Reply #6 November 19, 2010 10:38:43 AM
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Quoting Lord Xia,
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I've seen the AI be able to draft tons of stacks of Scions and throw them at me endlessly while they go tens of thousands into debt with no penalty.

 

This is just what the AI was doing to me.

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Reply #7 November 19, 2010 12:31:01 PM
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Wait, so.. dominance in warfare fueled by runaway military spending and a national debt that's mind-boggling huge yet still increasing every turn? My god, the AI is learning from real life!

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Reply #8 November 19, 2010 1:07:31 PM
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Quoting Austinvn,
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Wait, so.. dominance in warfare fueled by runaway military spending and a national debt that's mind-boggling huge yet still increasing every turn? My god, the AI is learning from real life!

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Reply #9 November 19, 2010 11:16:17 PM
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How to tell when you're playing a game too much; someone randomly references your name on the forums (as a source of knowledge), and you see it and reply within the hour.

hehehe..I was wondering if you'd bite. Hmmm...you either passed or failed depending on your point of view. It was a compliment btw. I am enjoying your mods. Great work!! It also occurred to me that I might be playing too much because....

  • at 5am I am debating whether to respond to a post of someone I randomly referenced that responded within the hour----or try and boot the new patch--or be on time for work.
  • on the way to and on the way back from work I am planning strategy for the beta when I get home.
  • upon arriving home I horrified that my wife is on the computer! Stop taunting--who cares about our family history or credit rating?? log off, female darkling incarnate! The patch has arrived!!
  • Called wife from work--tried to get her to boot the beta
  • "Glee" date night cancelled--patch is here!!
  • Wife furious that her prized chihuahua now answers to "Irane"
  • Wife begrudgingly decides to dress up as Procipinee---not by request but because it is probably the only way I'd pay attention to her at this point

 

Now do I eat dinner that she spent all evening cooking or go back to the game......?

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Reply #10 November 19, 2010 11:35:36 PM
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Quoting Phylast57,
reply 9
...upon arriving home I horrified that my wife is on the computer! Stop taunting--who cares about our family history or credit rating?? log off, female darkling incarnate! The patch has arrived!!
 

 

This hits close to home.  My wife wanted to update Facebook for a while...I tried in vain, to tell her about the sheer magnitude of the 1.1 beta.

 

So I hit her with a fireball.

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Reply #11 November 19, 2010 11:45:34 PM
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So I hit her with a fireball.

YES!!! alas, mine has a bit more mana.....ohoho...the banshee calls!!

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Reply #12 December 13, 2010 2:57:27 PM
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lol, this is do true, but the diff in real like if that the Sovereign can talk other Sovereigns into giving him a lone to build his army to kick you but.  and give them money back over 30 years or so.  LOL

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Reply #13 December 13, 2010 6:06:21 PM
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Wife begrudgingly decides to dress up as Procipinee---not by request but because it is probably the only way I'd pay attention to her at this point

  Hahahaha... holy **** dude.. that was a riot!

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