"If posting is sure to result in victory, then you must post!" Sun Tzu said that, and I think he knows a little bit more about posting than you do pal, 'cause he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the forum of honour.

Eh just talk about what you want to dude.

This

Well, ok if you cant decide, then I am gonna pick one: Number 3, which seems the most interesting one.

Ready? Set. Go

"Cute Pokemon always get Parahax!"

JESUS CHRIST!

That's the longest un-quoted post I've ever made!

Oh, and all of this shit is copyrighted, I see this anywhere else or in a book, and I"ll hunt you down via your IP Address and throw you off the cliffs of Meteora.

Xer0 \^/

Morpheas to the rescue! YAY!!

Just kidding

I'll try to keep it short, but this WILL be a long post, so excuse me in advance.

First of all, a couple of questions:

Vicodin! Just kidding....

Hmm, why does Hannah use painkillers, is she affected with some chronic pain disease? Just curious here.

And what about her past experience with Travis? Isnt he Mish's BF? We dont know all the little details here in the Chatroom, so thats why I'm asking!

"Speed"? What is that?

Now, I will try to keep my personal experiences out of my evaluation/opinion on the matter, considering that I did have a similar experience, so here we go:

Well, it is obvious, duh If she is being honest, then she said that she sees you more as a good friend (brother), than a guy/potential BF. I dunno, I will have to hear more about that incest joke, to have a better opinion. It depends on how much you know and trust her. Would she lie to you about something so significant?

Now, I wanna stay in the part where she pulled you away from your friend, hugged you, and said "Koda your girlfriend isnt here, give me a hug.". Emphasis on the "girlfriend" part. If she looked at Mish as competition to the whole dating thing, ergo if she wanted you to be her BF, and get rid of Mish, I think that she would call her with her name (Mishayla).

Like saying: "I'm your girl friend who's almost like a sister, and Mish is your GF. Now that she isnt here, we can hug, without her being jealous."

It might mean something else as well, but this is how I see it. But it definitely means something.

Have you tried not letting her hug you to see how she will react? Do the experiment sometime, if you want.

And what about the whole "brother-sister" thing?? Are you and Hannah really that close as friends? Tell us more.

How do you know that she would have kissed you if you didnt have a coldsore? Did she make a hint or move that made you think that? Or is it a wild guess? And by kissing you mean cheek to cheek right? Otherwise its "making out".

Ok, now why would she be angry at you for getting Herpes? I mean, you didnt do it on purpose obviously

However, her infatuation with you is definitely a good sign, if not something more.

I would advise you against that. Seriously now, it is a lot better for Mish to hear it from you, now that it is early, than her finding out the wrong way later on, when you will be closer with her.

Secrets in a relationship never help anyone. Neither the secret-holder nor the person who doesnt know.

Psychoanalists, psychologists, psychiatrists, cant really tell a person who they really are, or what they feel exactly. They can give a pretty close evaluation or analysis at best, but they cant be sure, and certainly cant be precise.

Now, Miranda's analysis might be correct (as much as it can be), but the only way you can be sure, is to ask Hannah herself.

Question: What is a "hard-on"? I assume its erection expressed differently?

1. She is obviously the jealous type. It is a good thing on the one hand, because it means that she (at least) really likes you, but is not so good at the same time, since it can cause misunderstandings, and bad situations. Just let her know and make her understand, that she is the only one for you. Remind her every day if possible, through sweet talk, and maybe some "I love you"s, if you feel that way.

2. I think the latter is probably true here, although you cant be sure unless you find out more.

3. Really?? You think so? ........ However impossible it might seem to you, I think there is a slight chance that you are attractive as a guy. Lose the low self-esteem and stop laughing about it please.

4. Yes, unfortunately it seems that 1 of the 2 (Mish or Hannah), will be kinda hurt in the end. Win-Lose scenario? I dont think so.

5. You dont have to emotionally satisfy 2 girls. I think most people would pay more attention to her GFs, than their friends. Also, considering that Hannah is NOT your GF, why do you have to "satisfy" her like you say? Being her friend doesnt mean that you have to flirt with her all the time, to make her feel nice. Just saying.

My thoughts....hmm...

As hard as I try to keep my personal experiences and opinions out of this, it is kinda impossible.

However, I would say that I will try to be as objective as possible.

1. You dreamed of being with Mish for so long. I would advise you not to ruin this relationship, and maintain it for as long as possible (considering that you do want to be with her ofc).

2. I believe that Mish should know about Hannah's actions, considering that she is your GF, and that Hannah is at least semi-flirting with you. After all, you wouldnt want her to find out the wrong way, and I assure you that it would be a lot worse than you telling her. I understand that you dont want to "rat" on Hannah, after her telling you not to say anything to Mish, but you need to think a little bit more about yourself, about the whole thing. And Hannah doing....whatever it is she's doing, affects both you and your relationship with Mish.

3. I cant know better than you the whole situation, but only you can tell if this is going to turn ugly or not. If Mish finds out, and goes all like "You f*^%ing whore, leave Koda alone!!! DIE!!!" remains to be seen, and you should know if Mish would take it really bad, because more factors come into play here, like Mish's relationship with Hannah, your relationship with her, etc, but the thing is, that you NEED to "clear your nest" here, be honest with both Mish and Hannah, and generally avoid future incoming fire.

Worst case scenario (if you do that), is that Mish and Hannah never speak to each other ever again, you lose Hannah as a friend, and keep your GF (Mish). You definitely do not want to lose them both.

I know, I was being a little extreme here, but I'm just saying

4. I understand that you are trying to be careful, not make any mistakes because the situation is delicate, but do not take too much damn time trying to figure out what's going on. Time is working against you atm.

I dont think there's a way to be 100% sure about Hannah's feelings towards you. Even she herself might not be sure. Or she is just lying. Its either one or the other. (Although I believe she is unsure, but please dont take my personal opinion into account.)

5. I think its safe to say, that the best play would be to take what Hannah said (she sees you more as a brother...) for granted, tell Mishayla everything, let her know that you only have eyes for her, that Hannah and you are just friends, and try to make it go as smooth as possible. Calm both of them down, with some of your diplomatic tricks (you must have some), but do keep in mind that trying to maintain both of your relationships (Mish and Hannah), might be a little risky, to say the least. You might want to try to give more attention to Mish, and make your relationship with her your #1 priority (protecting it), because you definitely do NOT want everything to do down with a big bang.

The truth shall set you free. After all, you are being the nice guy here, and you havent done anything wrong

Good luck.

"Human beings are a disease, and we are the cure"

Its kinda late for me atm and I have to go to sleep, but I'll try to respond as best as I can.

WTF, both Mish and Hannah are addicted to something

Uhm, I said "erection" which is basically the same thing

You should do something special together, like kicking Travis in the nuts, for example

And how do YOUview her?

When you're talking about Travis' and Hannah's abuse to Mish, do you mean mental or physical abuse?

1. Yes it is, but I didnt take into account the fact that you are together for only 1 month. My bad.

2. Gosh

4. Its not your fault. Besides, you cant keep everyone AND yourself happy. Someone will always be unhappy. You have to accept that. Have you seen the movie "The Butterfly Effect"? There is a lot of truth in that movie.

5. I understand that. Well, you cant really do much if she really is infatuated with you. And considering that Mish will "murder" Hannah if she finds out (like you said), just keep a safe distance between your friend Hannah. Just make her understand that you are with Mish, without hurting her feelings. But I do understand that you are being a nice guy, and feel sympathy towards Hannah.

1. Selflessness is noble and moral indeed. However, being completely selfless isnt going to turn out good for you, as you can understand.

2. Use your diplomatic skills, and push her buttons (she must have some), in order to make her as less furious as possible. I trust that you should know some tricks by now, right?

3. No trust me, you wouldnt want to be with the 2 of them at the same time. Ok, a three-some one night stand might be nice, but having 2 GFs at once, no no no I wouldnt want that in the long run. And yes, life sucks. Welcome to Earth.

4. Tickle you, REALLY? Ok....hugging, attempting to kiss you, tickling.....now I have no doubt in my mind that she is flirting with you.

5. No, dont make up stories, and lie to her. Just tell her the truth, but dress it up nicely. Ok, maybe skip the parts where Hannah wanted to kiss you (she didnt do it after all), and maybe tell her that she doesnt do it all the time, but dont make up stories.

"Human beings are a disease, and we are the cure"

ok now for my thoughts. The only way I know how to answer to these long posts.

Alt: reads xero's post

Morph: Offers advice;

Alt: agrees

Really and truly there is a fine line btwn Selflessness and overindulgence in sacraficial activity. It seems to be coming over to the point of the later for you. I generally stay away from offering advice to people, but here is one thing I will say. Your trying to help Hannah, but looking at all the problems you say she has...your underqualified. She seems to need serious medical attention, and well whatever or however they deal with drug addicts over there.

Srry I've been afk, the weekend was hell. Got a cold.

Now;

I view Hannah as an old friend in need, nothing more.  Be that as it may, I used to envy her while the two of them (Mish and Her) dated, but I give her sympathy and I'll throw her a line, even if I'm the one drowning.

1. It's k, again, you don't have a camera on my shoulder following me around, so you don't know everything.

2. She actually complained to me this morning that she needed a hit. On a side note: she's very apologetic towards me whenever she thinks she might have offended or irritated me, saying to me she's afraid of me abandoning her.

4. If she really is infatuated with me I'll probaby become super depressed, tbh. I think that I might have a Messiah Complex as well as an Inferiority Complex.

5. I'm not sure what "Overindulgence in acts of Selflessness" can be categorized as a psychological disorder, but I think I may have that as well. *sigh*

6. Meh, I just told her that Hannah is attempting to become closer to me, which she doesn't care about. I guess she doesn't percieve Hannah as a threat since we're dating, however, I did leave out the flirting when I told her.

7. I was considering becoming closer to Hannah, then asking her what she wanted out of the relationship once we became close. not sure how much longer I can take being her little diary/teddy bear (The other day she told me that she hates her father and her family hates her, she kisses her palms, blah blah blah, and I retorted that I never knew my biological father, so I could relate to a degree.)

8. Yeah. What with me and my ex gf wrestling at every out-of-school event we attend together, Mish and I who just plain are physical overall, and now Hannah, day to day life is getting exhausting.

9. done and done.  Oh, and apparently my looks are akin to that of Justin Timberlake, on a degree of attractiveness, not similarity, according to my female relatives, and girlfriend. Now my female peers are going to start dressing me like him as well.  Fun.

Xer0 \^/

"Bear the Cross, Wear the Crown, there's just some Evil you can't Bleed Out" -Actions and Motives by Ten Years

meh i hate long posts. And i al always short and to the point in real life.

I prefer to use the word blunt when describing myself.

1. I don't know everything.

2. Actually it's getting to the point where I'm having Mish and Hannah around at the same time, with no issues, just a lack of physical activity towards Hannah in company.

4. Messiah Complex - The idea or belief that one is the savior of a certain individual, group, or culture. Two notable examples are Jack Shephard of Lost and Light Yagami of Death Note.  It's not that it's my fault, it's that I'd fail to live up to her expectations seeing as I can never truly satisfy her romantically.

5. If being human means being imperfect, then I will have to break free of my Human bonds and become inhuman. At least, that's what has to happen, otherwise... I only pray that hell has a bottom.

6. Mishayla apparently does trust me enough to deal with Hannah, since she has no issue with me and liz goofing around like we do.

7. I refer to part 5. for this, and I also should point out that so long as she doesn't kiss me, or anything I can maintain at the cost of some of my time and energy.

8. My ex-girlfriend is Liz, yes, and we wrestly and occasionally tickle one another whenever we are at parties and such (The Pool party was an exception, thank god, she's at least a C cup, maybe bigger.. she almost fell out 3x, same for Hannah, just down a few cup sized) and we play "Tag" at school (one of us will "tag" the other in the hall and dart away, until we come across one another again) Mish and I kiss and hug more than we talk about emotional joys and woes these days. A true sign of my descent. Hannah, again, tickles and hugs me.

9. Meh, self-esteem boost.

Xer0 \^/

1. Uhm... I meant knowing everything about you, dummy Aka, only you know everything about yourself.

2. Ok, but does the phrase "she needed a hit", mean she wanted to get high, or not?

4. I've never seen Death Note, but I get the meaning of the Messiah Complex. And you need to satisfy Hannah romantically....why??

5. I dont know what you meant with that Hell comment, but fyi we are all human beings, thus we are all imperfect. If someone was truly perfect, then they just wouldnt be human. They'd be some kind of higher entity probably, but certainly not human. Just accept it.

6. Ok, good for you then. I guess all the fuss was for nothing, huh?

7. Now, hold on, because this is gonna be a big revelation. Ok, ready? Here it goes: Men/guys CAN say no to women/girls, believe it or not! Yeah, you have the right to not let her kiss you, however implausible it may sound IF you dont want to kiss her that is (of course).

8. I know what Tag is, duh And I have to say, flirting with 2 girls + having a GF all at once FTW! He he, I'm only half kidding here, but you are kinda doing that. And dont start telling me now, things like: "We just wrestle as friends" and "we just tickle one another, while I look at her breast size...I mean, we are only friends... ". Come on Xer07, just admit it, and enjoy it! Btw, I'm sure there are plenty of guys you can wrestle with, and they are a lot more challenging than a 15 year old schoolgirl. What you're doing is calling flirting, my friend Your "descent"?? Since when getting physical with a girl is wrong? Unless you're telling me that you dont have any sexual impulses and desires, which is impossible, or you're claiming that you're not human, then you havent done anything wrong. Guess what Xer07: You are not a angel, neither a demon. You're just human.

9. Yeah, you need that.

"Human beings are a disease, and we are the cure"

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"Human beings are a disease, and we are the cure"