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Make percent mana bonus stack better

October 18, 2009 2:19:28 AM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

Currently percent mana bonus does not stack well, because bonus is added instead of multiplied. For example you have Cape of Plentiful Mana and Plenor Battlecrown, but they will ignore mana produced by each other.

Consider a level 8 TB with ice aura, fire mana buff, Vlemish, Plenor, and Cape.

Base mana = 6.88, ice aura = 9, Vlemish = 15, fire mana buff = 50%, Plenoe = 70%, Cape = 400%

With current calculation: 191.456

With multiplying calculation: 393.72

So I wish percent mana bonus was calculated using multiplications instead of additions.

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Reply #1 October 18, 2009 5:34:09 AM
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Isn't that similar to wanting speed % to be multiplication as well?

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Reply #2 October 18, 2009 8:42:09 PM
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i agree with gun. cape does absolute shit house as a favor item coz of the way the percentages stack. i dont get cape coz magus rod does its job 2 times better.

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Reply #3 October 20, 2009 8:56:31 PM
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Change the numbers, and make % regen based on your current Mana, not your regen.  So make PLenor like a 1% mana regeneration, if you have 500 mana you get 5 MPS.  If you have 3000 mana, you get 30 mps.  But as you spend it, it goes down. Would also teach people to conserve mana.

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Reply #4 October 20, 2009 9:51:58 PM
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i rlly like that idea zech.

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Reply #5 October 20, 2009 11:02:49 PM
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Zech that idea will not work for one reason.

Im at 0 mana after a fight I won.  I now have 0% regen.  Your idea would only work if there were a minimum # to fall back on.

I think the game hsould just do the math how it is supposed to be done.

As in: AxBxC=D is the same as (AxB)xC=D   That is how it should be calculated.

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Reply #6 October 21, 2009 2:28:08 PM
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You do have a minimum.. it's called your base mana regen!

And no, that is not how math is 'supposed' to be done. Both ways are completely valid.

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Reply #7 October 21, 2009 3:02:10 PM
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What would be the point of +mana items and abilities?

Currently percent mana bonus does not stack well, because bonus is added instead of multiplied. For example you have Cape of Plentiful Mana and Plenor Battlecrown, but they will ignore mana produced by each other.
Why would you do this? Get a Vlemish Faceguard and then the cape restores a much more significant chunk of mana.

Also some maps have +15 mps flags, on those maps % mana is excellent. Not every item has to be a good choice in every situation.

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Reply #8 October 21, 2009 3:05:23 PM
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Base mana = 6.88, ice aura = 9, Vlemish = 15, fire mana buff = 50%, Plenoe = 70%, Cape = 400%

With current calculation: 191.456

With multiplying calculation: 393.72

PER SECOND. I the item would give nearly 4k mana to a single player and at least 2k mana to the rest of the team with your equations. That's way overboard.

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Reply #9 October 21, 2009 10:36:32 PM
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Quoting obscenitor,
reply 8

Base mana = 6.88, ice aura = 9, Vlemish = 15, fire mana buff = 50%, Plenoe = 70%, Cape = 400%


With current calculation: 191.456

With multiplying calculation: 393.72
PER SECOND. I the item would give nearly 4k mana to a single player and at least 2k mana to the rest of the team with your equations. That's way overboard.

Didn't he add the ice aura and fire mana buff values? Does he mean the inspiring flame bonus?

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Reply #10 October 21, 2009 11:53:48 PM
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Fire form's buff doesn't end immediately when you swap.

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Reply #11 October 22, 2009 3:53:22 AM
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yeh it continues for how long its supposed to be up.

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Reply #12 October 22, 2009 1:50:10 PM
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Gotcha, thanks.

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