National Socialism is very cut and dry, exactly what they were practicing, and only differed from Marxism because the guy was an internationalist. National Socialism is the economic component in fascism, racial superiority being most of the rest. Think of them as a cross between utopian socialists, modern capitalists, and the KKK. They practiced massive social engineering, but were smart enough to realize money made the world go round. Instead of abolishing free enterprise, they bailed them out and then told them what to do, while keeping their money. If that sounds familiar, it's because the Bush, and now Obama administration, have done the exact same thing here over the last year and a half, bailing them out, then telling them what to do. It's text book national socialism, the primary component to fascism.
Hitler being a genocidal maniac doesn't change fascism into anything besides a Marxist inspired form of collectivism.
You're doing a nice dance pretending to be oblivious to the connotation of fascism and Nazism, but the vast majority of people view those social systems as jingoistic, racist dystopias, not abstract economic systems. You yourself acknowledge that "racial superiority" is "most of the rest," and that we should think of them as a socio-economic system mixed with the KKK.
There are plenty of modern European nations you could reference if you wanted contemporary examples of the failings of those systems, when you depend on Nazism you're fear mongering, not having an honest conversation.
So I repeat it's complete bullshit and references to Nazi Germany only seek to derail any conversation outside of the most erudite and abstract economic debates, which I assure you this thread and the national debate are not. The USA isn't Nazi Germany and if even if universal health care were implemented it wouldn't become Nazi Germany. The problem with (or beauty of) making that refernce is that it's so easily disproven and so historically inaccurate that it completely nullifies whatever point was attempting to be made with it.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that FDR, the American leader during WWII (or most of it) wasn't a Nazi, Winston Churchill wasn't a Nazi, and that the long shadow of nationalized health care that's been cast over Europe and nearly every other nation that helped defeat Nazi Germany did not result in the practicing of eugenics, the continued destruction of the Jewish people, or any of the other reasons why Germany became so infamous.
It also doesn't mean we're not duplicating their early actions by bailing out and then exercising control over our large corporations.
Conversely you should acknowledge that if corporations aren't controlled then they will control the government. We're sliding back into the gilded age, and our corporations would run amok if not for the EPA, FDA, anti-trust and monopoly regulations, a national minimum wage, and a number of other things that keep them from profiting as dramatically from average people's misfortunes as they would like.
When it comes down to it the industries which lost control to the government failed, and they had built themselves in a way which guaranteed they would take an unacceptable amount of people down with them when they did so. Your faith in the corporate world is unfounded, and I'm sure you'll say that my mistrust is equally irrational.
