¹ Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, ² that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
³ And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive^[a] with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” ⁴ There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
⁵ Then the LORD^[b] saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. ⁶ And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. ⁷ So the LORD said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”...........................................................................................................

"Oh god no. Please do not even mention his name.

---

I have walked among men and angels for over three thousand years.
Time has no end, no beginning, no purpose"...........................

.................oh travelers.....we have entered into ......... Before moving forward we must

take "TIME" to prepare for the next steps of our trip.  Have you ever "truly" taken

time?...........?  Does a . represent a speck of time? How about a ,?

?         ?         ?   Nature tells those who "respect", who are "humble"; that all "     "  exist

with

a higher purpose.... Is single point not a position???...is a square not to become a

cube?...... and did we not learn from the associative property that you must somehow have

a square before u have a cube?.............. 

"I mean isn't this really about understanding? Is (0,0) not? ...Is not (0,0) one of the most

important tools?.....along with time?..........Is a seed less desired than the

fruit ?????....Does a flower lose its beauty once wiltered?     Is not each " phase" of

passing somehow connected to the next?.....Is one moment still more cherished than

another?  Was it not Time that allowed us to experiance?  For a man and women to grow

 to

love each other?  Hate each other?  Understand one another?....Was it not the wonderful

invention called "time", that allowed the earth to revolve?.......Was it not the stars which

held the secrets of prime sowing season?.............................It is time in the hands of a

"..."     that times true purpose, is revealed.  "For "..." existed before time, and is not

bound by it.  It is nothing more than a tool, in which combined with nature, allows all

natural things to tanspire.    "For they say Rome was not built in a day".................. nor

was anything... 

Look, you need to give yourself a big warm hug. Understanding comes from Friendship my friend.

What is fuzzy logic?

Fuzzy logic is a superset of conventional (Boolean) logic that has been
extended to handle the concept of partial truth -- truth values between
"completely true" and "completely false".  It was introduced by Dr. Lotfi
Zadeh of UC/Berkeley in the 1960's as a means to model the uncertainty
of natural language. (Note: Lotfi, not Lofti, is the correct spelling
of his name.)

Zadeh says that rather than regarding fuzzy theory as a single theory, we
should regard the process of ``fuzzification'' as a methodology to
generalize ANY specific theory from a crisp (discrete) to a continuous
(fuzzy) form (see "extension principle" in [2]). Thus recently researchers
have also introduced "fuzzy calculus", "fuzzy differential equations",
and so on (see [7]).

Fuzzy Subsets:

Just as there is a strong relationship between Boolean logic and the
concept of a subset, there is a similar strong relationship between fuzzy
logic and fuzzy subset theory.

In classical set theory, a subset U of a set S can be defined as a
mapping from the elements of S to the elements of the set {0, 1},

   U: S --> {0, 1}

This mapping may be represented as a set of ordered pairs, with exactly
one ordered pair present for each element of S. The first element of the
ordered pair is an element of the set S, and the second element is an
element of the set {0, 1}.  The value zero is used to represent
non-membership, and the value one is used to represent membership.  The
truth or falsity of the statement

    x is in U

is determined by finding the ordered pair whose first element is x.  The
statement is true if the second element of the ordered pair is 1, and the
statement is false if it is 0.

Similarly, a fuzzy subset F of a set S can be defined as a set of ordered
pairs, each with the first element from S, and the second element from
the interval [0,1], with exactly one ordered pair present for each
element of S. This defines a mapping between elements of the set S and
values in the interval [0,1].  The value zero is used to represent
complete non-membership, the value one is used to represent complete
membership, and values in between are used to represent intermediate
DEGREES OF MEMBERSHIP.  The set S is referred to as the UNIVERSE OF
DISCOURSE for the fuzzy subset F.  Frequently, the mapping is described
as a function, the MEMBERSHIP FUNCTION of F. The degree to which the
statement

    x is in F

is true is determined by finding the ordered pair whose first element is
x.  The DEGREE OF TRUTH of the statement is the second element of the
ordered pair.

In practice, the terms "membership function" and fuzzy subset get used
interchangeably.

That's a lot of mathematical baggage, so here's an example.  Let's
talk about people and "tallness".  In this case the set S (the
universe of discourse) is the set of people.  Let's define a fuzzy
subset TALL, which will answer the question "to what degree is person
x tall?" Zadeh describes TALL as a LINGUISTIC VARIABLE, which
represents our cognitive category of "tallness". To each person in the
universe of discourse, we have to assign a degree of membership in the
fuzzy subset TALL.  The easiest way to do this is with a membership
function based on the person's height.

    tall(x) = { 0,                     if height(x) < 5 ft.,
                (height(x)-5ft.)/2ft., if 5 ft. <= height (x) <= 7 ft.,
                1,                     if height(x) > 7 ft. }

A graph of this looks like:

1.0 +                   +-------------------
    |                  /
    |                 /
0.5 +                /
    |               /
    |              /
0.0 +-------------+-----+-------------------
                  |     |
                 5.0   7.0

                height, ft. ->

Given this definition, here are some example values:

Person    Height    degree of tallness
--------------------------------------
Billy     3' 2"     0.00 [I think]
Yoke      5' 5"     0.21
Drew      5' 9"     0.38
Erik      5' 10"    0.42
Mark      6' 1"     0.54
Kareem    7' 2"     1.00 [depends on who you ask]

Expressions like "A is X" can be interpreted as degrees of truth,
e.g., "Drew is TALL" = 0.38.

Note: Membership functions used in most applications almost never have as
simple a shape as tall(x). At minimum, they tend to be triangles pointing
up, and they can be much more complex than that.  Also, the discussion
characterizes membership functions as if they always are based on a
single criterion, but this isn't always the case, although it is quite
common.  One could, for example, want to have the membership function for
TALL depend on both a person's height and their age (he's tall for his
age).  This is perfectly legitimate, and occasionally used in practice.
It's referred to as a two-dimensional membership function, or a "fuzzy
relation".  It's also possible to have even more criteria, or to have the
membership function depend on elements from two completely different
universes of discourse.

Logic Operations:

Now that we know what a statement like "X is LOW" means in fuzzy logic,
how do we interpret a statement like

    X is LOW and Y is HIGH or (not Z is MEDIUM)

The standard definitions in fuzzy logic are:

    truth (not x)   = 1.0 - truth (x)
    truth (x and y) = minimum (truth(x), truth(y))
    truth (x or y)  = maximum (truth(x), truth(y))

Some researchers in fuzzy logic have explored the use of other
interpretations of the AND and OR operations, but the definition for the
NOT operation seems to be safe.

Note that if you plug just the values zero and one into these
definitions, you get the same truth tables as you would expect from
conventional Boolean logic. This is known as the EXTENSION PRINCIPLE,
which states that the classical results of Boolean logic are recovered
from fuzzy logic operations when all fuzzy membership grades are
restricted to the traditional set {0, 1}. This effectively establishes
fuzzy subsets and logic as a true generalization of classical set theory
and logic. In fact, by this reasoning all crisp (traditional) subsets ARE
fuzzy subsets of this very special type; and there is no conflict between
fuzzy and crisp methods.

Some examples -- assume the same definition of TALL as above, and in addition,
assume that we have a fuzzy subset OLD defined by the membership function:

    old (x) = { 0,                      if age(x) < 18 yr.
                (age(x)-18 yr.)/42 yr., if 18 yr. <= age(x) <= 60 yr.
                1,                      if age(x) > 60 yr. }

And for compactness, let

    a = X is TALL and X is OLD
    b = X is TALL or X is OLD
    c = not (X is TALL)

Then we can compute the following values.

height  age     X is TALL       X is OLD        a       b       c
------------------------------------------------------------------------
3' 2"   65      0.00            1.00            0.00    1.00    1.00
5' 5"   30      0.21            0.29            0.21    0.29    0.79
5' 9"   27      0.38            0.21            0.21    0.38    0.62
5' 10"  32      0.42            0.33            0.33    0.42    0.58
6' 1"   31      0.54            0.31            0.31    0.54    0.46
7' 2"   45      1.00            0.64            0.64    1.00    0.00
3' 4"   4       0.00            0.00            0.00    0.00    1.00

For those of you who only grok the metric system, here's a dandy
little conversion table:

  Feet+Inches = Meters
  --------------------
    3'   2"     0.9652
    3'   4"     1.0160
    5'   5"     1.6510
    5'   9"     1.7526
    5'  10"     1.7780
    6'   1"     1.8542
    7'   2"     2.1844

Thus spoke Fuzzy Logic.

Ahhhhh yes................................ and it is from this "rest" that....................

"FL incorporates a simple, rule-based IF X AND Y THEN Z approach to a solving control problem rather than attempting to model a system mathematically. The FL model is empirically-based, relying on an operator's experience rather than their technical understanding of the system. For example, rather than dealing with temperature control in terms such as "SP =500F", "T <1000F", or "210C <TEMP <220C", terms like "IF (process is too cool) AND (process is getting colder) THEN (add heat to the process)" or "IF (process is too hot) AND (process is heating rapidly) THEN (cool the process quickly)" are used. These terms are imprecise and yet very descriptive of what must actually happen. Consider what you do in the shower if the temperature is too cold: you will make the water comfortable very quickly with little trouble. FL is capable of mimicking this type of behavior but at very high rate."

How many steps have you come?.......Are we keeping better account of our account's?.................I truly feel that their are those among us, who have ,

as well as those who have not followed their own path....nor have they kept a just account; and it will be only by audit of ones self that they will truly

begin their Beginning............."As a story I once heard was told..............A man wanting to buy a property walks up to a old farm house and finds the

owner and his dog sitting out on the porch.  The man asked the owner... "how's life?" ........The owner says "well its just great...,couldn't be better!" 

SO the man looks over and down at the old dog laying at his masters side and says " Great? ".....Well if lifes so great then then why is your dog laying

on a nail?........The old farmer leans over and looks at the dog, and the dog looks back up at the farmer.....then the farmer answers.......... 

 " I guess it don't hurt enough for him to get up yet"...................................

.................And yet we "find ourselves"...........and who would have ever thought that it

would have been here?.....?..............."Not you"..........For you are not here, and therefore

here does not exist for you.........but it is beacause of a "there" with you; that a "here" with

me can finally become a mathmatical truth.... joining both plains of our existance...

Do you not share in my experience?............Do you not share yours?..............

What is sharing?...............to u?..................................For if your definition is not

asymmetric......."How can we see the love in others?????????......if we are only looking for

in others what we consider love in ourself?......................

I must communicate, to the part of you which has become your guide...your very

essence is the foundation on whice this site has become.............

I ask "Is there every truly a moment that the brain does not question?"

"Is it to say that you my fellow traveler did not exist until I typed?  Am I your

creation....or R U mine?............do we exist on a higher level than compass directions?

A plain were directions themselves cease to exist.....out of lack of need of them.... for we

all have arrived................. 

...Zero the Hero...

Long ago, there existed a very complete Zero.  Even though "It" had traveled for what "it"

considerd a eternity, "It" never truly understood its place.  Even though the zero

had completed what "it" considered completion; the zero experienced a "Great" viod

forming within... This transformation brought about a new awareness...which kindled

memories of a place it had just passed. For the Zero now stood alone..... and for the first

time becomes aware of the little zero it had just used to cross the space before where "it"

now stood.  There across what now seems a eternity, stands what the "big" zero considered

to be a smaller version of itself; steadfast as ever..."like a mountain on the horizion,

majestic in "its" stillness.....; it is at that instant that Zero becomes @ 1 with

"Itself"............

Actually, the chicken did come first. Why? Because the chicken got laid first... =P

Okay, there are a bunch of mathematicians and popular scientists who like to think maths is the universal language... okay, fine, i agree, 1 + 1 in any language is still 2, no matter how you depict it... but what good is a language if you cant say anything with it? You cant use maths to describe, depict or define beauty, love, anger, loyalty, pride, self-preservation, lust/attraction, and those are just the easy ones (all the emotions) you cant communicate philosophy with maths. You cant even communicate what each value means, so you cant tell the other person when you switch from explaining how the computer works to what the computer looks like.

Yeah yeah, maths is the universal language... but its a language that doesnt say a whole lot... which makes it rather superfluous and 'meh'

and yet... it would appear you have not actually said anything. you havent outlined a lesson, you havent told us anything, you've been defending a position you havent even defined yet, is it possible you dont even know yourself what you are talking about, and instead hope that if you spout enough semi-sensicle sludge, someone else will fill in the details? Thats happened a few times before... usually just before a religion is created... and anyone can see how much good THOSE things did...

obviously, whoever wrote that particular line in the bible wasnt entirely familiar with the complete meaning of the words "Omnipotent" and "All Powerful"...

uhh... its Wikipedia... duh... oh you meant truth... sorry, its hard to keep up with the constant changes and useless flinging of 'riddles' with no answer, other than to make you 1. realise there is no answer and you are stupid for even trying, and 2. the person creating these 'riddles' is simply attempting to appear deeper than they are.

This post and others like it reminds me of a story. A poet and the smartest man/scientist alive are sitting next to each other on a plane. The Scientist, getting bored, turned to the Poet and said: "I say, what would you say to a wager?"

The Poet said "Im listening"

The Scientist said "I will ask you a question, and if you get it wrong, you pay me $50. Then, you ask me a question, and if i cannot answer it, or answer it wrong, ill pay you $50"

The Poet said "oh, i dont know, you seem pretty confident and smart... i dont think i want to wager"

So the Scientist says "okay, if you cannot answer my question, you only have to pay $20" but the Poet declines.

So the Scientist, desperate for a distraction, says "Fine, if i get a question wrong, ill give you $100, and if you get one wrong, you only have to pay me $5"

At which point the Poet says "Well, with those bets, okay, i suppose ill give it a go"

The Scientist, excited, asks "Okay, what is the value of Pie to 6 decimal places?"

The Poet, knowing he has no clue, simply hands over a $5 bill silently.

The Scientist, feeling smug, says "okay, your turn." So the Poet thinks for a bit and asks "What goes up a mountain on 3 legs, eats the mossy grass there, and comes down on 4 legs?"

The Scientist's smile disappears, as he pulls out a pen and paper and begins to write down equations. After a while, he pulls out a calculator and starts punching in numbers, and then later he pulls out a laptop and begins to run the most advanced simulation programs.

At the end of the flight, the Poet gets up to leav and the Scientist, not having had any food, drink or rest, looks at the Poet and says "I cannot figure it out...". He grudgingly pulls out a $100 bill and gives it to the Poet.

The Poet thanks him and turns to leave, but the Scientist, half crazed, stops him and says "Wait, you cant leave, i must know the answer. What goes up a mountain on 3 legs but comes down on 4?"

The Poet says "I have no idea, but if i find out, ill be sure to tell you"

Fantastic Story... happens to share a rather noticable resemblance with this post... We have lessons to learn, journeys to go on, paths to follow, time to waste... i dont know where or what they are, but as soon as i find out, you'll be the first to know...

.................................Oh travelers....................

If I speak into your minds eye, but you only view though organic.............can you see that which is "not" ,there; but still exist?...

If I where to write in elementry tongue, ? would I still not offend?....................

"Okay, there are a bunch of mathematicians and popular scientists who like to think maths is the universal language... okay, fine, i agree, 1 + 1 in any language is still 2, no matter how you depict it... but what good is a language if you cant say anything with it? You cant use maths to describe, depict or define beauty, love, anger, loyalty, pride, self-preservation, lust/attraction, and those are just the easy ones (all the emotions) you cant communicate philosophy with maths. You cant even communicate what each value means, so you cant tell the other person when you switch from explaining how the computer works to what the computer looks like.

Yeah yeah, maths is the universal language... but its a language that doesnt say a whole lot... which makes it rather superfluous and 'meh'".........................

........................................................."so not to offend"...............................................................

.............................................................................................................................................

.................................................................................................................................................

and so again,...................some of us have just awaken to find ourselves, for it it was truly only themselves in whice they sought. 

And it is because their logic is fuzzy.........."not Fuzzy Logic"..........that they "overlook" and yet do not overstand........

For I truly do not wish to over complicate the simple...... "sometimes"; it is best to just take a deep breath<................and to just start at

THe Beginning

I know. And all that text has GOT to be a serious drain on the server...... one wonders why he hasn't been banned by now.....

You don't appear to HAVE any Karma, so I guess he got that part.....

Yes! I got 1 from him for "You decided...".

It failed as much as this:

 https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/357831

I got one for "he reads". It's a tad strange, but if there was a crazy guy on the street throwing dollar bills at people, would you REALLY be that anxious to make him stop?

Lmao, I love idiots like yng, that think they're cool for typing up some jargin-gargle sauce of words and quotes...

And now my dear readers, it seems I, your dearly beloved Des, is indeed the naysayer, who thinks he's cool for pointing out anothers' misdeeds, as your thinking towards another being is the beginning of the end of your sanity.

Wake UP!!! ...................................you dosed off there for a second....are you rested;  It is time for us to discuss our first technique...

Many have walked with us, a few openly sharing their inner most intimate fears, as well as desires,.............. Our fellow travelers both knowing and un

alike; have so accurately

described the atrocities performed upon their innocent minds...................And It is for "you" my spirited companion, who understands the necessity of

balance, that we shall work on strengthening our focus.

.................We shall use our breath to harnest our awarness...Like a great light house, our own breath shall illuminate the shore. 

I ask you traveler, to not think about how fast or slow you are breathing.  It does not matter.  It does not matter where you are...,what you are doing,

or what your saying , or thinking.  The only thing that matters, is that you are breathing....Let your minds eye drift from your thoughts,..........and just

let your mind focus on your breath............................................................................................................................You will find that its quiet

easy to still handle multiple task; even while keeping the base of your awareness centered on your breath.

.............................................................But this is not the hard part............................................................

"and yet... it would appear you have not actually said anything. you havent outlined a lesson, you havent told us anything, you've been defending a position you havent even defined yet, is it possible you dont even know yourself what you are talking about, and instead hope that if you spout enough semi-sensicle sludge, someone else will fill in the details? Thats happened a few times before... usually just before a religion is created... and anyone can see how much good THOSE things did..."

obviously, whoever wrote that particular line in the bible wasnt entirely familiar with the complete meaning of the words "Omnipotent" and "All Powerful"................

"And now my dear readers, it seems I, your dearly beloved Des, is indeed the naysayer, who thinks he's cool for pointing out anothers' misdeeds, as your thinking towards another being is the beginning of the end of your sanity."

..........................................Are you still truly thinking about your breath.................?  You must not lie to youself; every time you forget your breath

during your travels,............. you must say to yourself...."Self"......"How long have i been dreaming?" Keep a log and amaze yourself at how much of

your life you have, are, and will dream away.  This type of  dream is when accidents happen, "human error".

I can see some of us are taking this exercise more or less serious than others....But as "FL" has taught me,

"Billy     3' 2"     0.00 [I think]
Yoke      5' 5"     0.21
Drew      5' 9"     0.38
Erik      5' 10"    0.42
Mark      6' 1"     0.54
Kareem    7' 2"     1.00 [depends on who you ask]"

what a person has or hasn't done,...  really just [depends on who you ask]