as an UB player I have to agree here. I think they did it to give the character visually different abilities but as you said it's a bit over kill. Make it a melee skill and it would be better balanced.

If it wasn't ranged though he would be incredibly underpowered. Getting close to enemy heros or teamplay is a deathsentence against somone expereinced. Without spit, he would have an extremly hard time holding flags early game. Although I agree it doesn't fit, he would require buffing elsewhere if that was the case.

Honestly his range is pathetic with spit. I can't think of another ranged skill that has a smaller range than spit. Even a pro regulus can hit and run UB without ever getting spit on. (I've seen it done, talk about FRUSTRATING).

Um, what?

Sedna's Heal is actually overpowered against UB if anything, removing Spit and healing a huge amount of damage. This can be cast on other players.

Oak's Shield removes it, heals him, and makes him immune to damage for X seconds. This can be cast on other players.

Queen's Bramble Shield has the same cooldown, costs less mana, and will prevent all the damage from a spit. This can be cast on other players.

Erebus's Mist removes Spit and makes him immune to all attacks in the game. He can then teleport out of range just by waiting till his cooldown is up.

There is a favor item which removes all negative effects.

Those are just the actual pure counters.

You also have other options, like:

Unclean Beast is has spit too, for mirror matches.

Regulus can use a combination of mines and snipe to keep a safe distance.

Torchbearer can harrass from a distance, and has a combination of stuns and interupts to help mitigate UB's damage.

Rook is better than UB in melee if specced for it, and can construct a nearly impenetrable tower wall.

Spit is not tough at all if you know how to play.

UB is not overpowered at all.  Spit is his bread and butter skill, he hopes that you think he is all that in melee too, because we all know late game when you hit the 6k health mark UB's spit is useless.   UB has low health, so without spit he couldn't kill you.  However, he is strong enough to kill you as you are trying to run away.

QQ

Heroes seem pretty balanced imo. Most of the whining is coming from people who want to play dota but accidentally load up DG instead and are aghast they can't win with a stunlock.

Heroes aren't all equally powerful, in all contexts, but when regular and favor items are added in, team dynamics, and you understand half the battle in these games is position and motion (as opposed to who can do the most dps), then you'll stop QQing and enjoy the game

Naz

My main issue with UB is combined with mostly any other DG he gets a garaunteed kill if he can get near another DG at the same level.

As a rook yesterday with tons of HP items and the HP favor item I could not survive the other 2 UBs would come over, both spit then take it in turns to stun me, auto attacking all the time.  They just run from my partner then as I didn't do any damage to them so they weren't even slightly bothered.  Impossible to counter apart from never ever getting in a position where they could do it.

It was impossible to avoid on the 2v2 map as I had to attempt to get the lowest 2 flags as it was Dominate.  Also quite often 1 UB would go round the back of the top flag while another would chase me below it, as I run away with lots of health I would be caught in a pincer movement and again killed.  I felt like a noob but is this kind of thing really counterable?

Yep, spit isn't op for all the reasons above.  In fact, I was getting stuffed repeated by oak's stun skill cause it's the same range as spit, but activates faster QQ.  Still, I'd take a (minor) nerf in spit for a major increase in bestial wrath (IE, no start up + speed boost).

This guys knows what he is talking about.  Take note of this well-developed mini essay, for it is true.  Some of you simply have no concept of a counter system.

Why? Why do people have a problem with demigods getting moves that hit towers and players?

Some demigods (namely the generals) have great responses to spit, and if I'm up against a general-heavy team I usually go for a completely different build, getting spit mostly for pushing towers if at all.  It's the assassins that have trouble with spit.  If favour items are disabled, there is no way for assassins to remove the effect, forcing them to stock up on health and regen items to counter you.

spit is ok mid to late its when you are level 1 to bout 10 or so. I mean i get hit 1 time i need to get back to base .

sp IMO they need to decrease the range in the beginning and increase it as you level the skill.

Also alot of abilities are kinda op early in the game as well. So what can be done?