DotA Allstars 6.60 » Forum Post by Menoth

Who gives a rat's ass really? This is like another MMO "Who is better and why". Stay on your side if you like Dota and we'll stay on ours.

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Quoting The_Witchdocta,

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Quoting Crazy1337,
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Had a little break from this forums (not like i'm a regular) beta-testing League of Legends-Clash of Fates and found this thread, which was very interesting indeed...

So far the dota elitists, yes we are elitists. I've been a part of the Dota Allstars community for well over 4 years and so far the DA community have left the DG community alone. Do not start a war. Garena alone has over 6 million Dota players and when you include all the private servers in countries like Austarlia/New Zealand, Philipines, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore.etc Remember this does not even incude battle.net You are looking at approximately around 12 million and above Dota players.

Dota currently has over 30 million builds with heroes and items, yes 30 million. And yet its popularity exceeds in the millions and in some countries higher than World of Warcraft. Demigod is a tiny fly compared to the giant spider Dota is....For your sake do not piss the DA community...

Dota is popular, yes...but for the most part your figures are way off. And you're a little crazy to boot..hmm..how 'bout that?

Garena has 11 million players, if you noticed I didn't say all 11 million players played Dota, did I? I said 6 million players played Dota. Garena also supports other games such as CS. You sir don't know shit even if it fell abruptly into your hands. Also to the other poster calling my post arogant, are you speaking for the DG community?

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Quoting VyperXXX,

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Quoting Ouchy Dathurts,
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Lol. You got the thinly veiled insults backwards. I never said you were crying hacks because you lost. But thats the mentality of the majority. People lose a game and it's never their fault. Never ever has anything to do with them. Your team lost it for you or your enemy was cheating. People do it everyday in every game. How often is it true? Basically never.

I've seriously encountered a handful of people I thought could be maphacking over the years. If people are using it as prevelently as you say they're REALLY shitty at it. The two times I can think of off the top of my head was a thunder panda recently grappling across the river directly on top of me with no possible knowledge of where I was. There is literally no way for him to know where I was at since I'd been foresting for a bit and his entire team was mid lane. But bam, grapple to the exact pixel I'm at and exploded. The other one was POTM shooting her arrow where I was standing (i'd thankfully moved a split second before). I was standing in a weird spot no one actually goes to and she or anyone had'nt seen me for about 30 seconds. Now I can't prove either of them cheated, it just felt fishy.

Part of me has always wanted to get some hacks and once people start accusing me of something I'm not just turn it on and be like "well I wasn't before but it's time to reap the fucking whirlwind now". People accuse other people of shit all the time with zero evidence.

Yesh, EUL made DotA. Then guinsoo took it over, but you forgot that part so maybe you're not as versed in the history as you let on =P The bottom line is HE'S 1 DUDE AND HE'S THE ONLY DUDE WORKING ON THE GAME TODAY. This is a fact which can not be disputed. You seem to be fighting saying that's not true for some reason.

Dude, you're only making yourself look bad by pretending map hacking doesnt go on in Dota. It may not in outiside areas/private servers, but it does on Bnet. At any rate, I'm sick of arguing with a fan boy. You keep on raging against the machine and worshiping Icefrog in your time capsule, the rest of us will move on with civilization.

map hack exists , maybe in a wider extent then im aware , of .

but tbh , if someone knows im coming it can be map awareness , just like i know when im about to get ganked .

but in most cases people who maphack suck anyways , theyre never gonna learn things like map awareness and they rely on their maphack to win , which wont make them take in and learn that much of the game.

maphackers , hack , cry , QQ , ragequit and thats that

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Quoting khemintiri,

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Quoting VyperXXX, reply 24

Quoting Ouchy Dathurts,
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Lol. You got the thinly veiled insults backwards. I never said you were crying hacks because you lost. But thats the mentality of the majority. People lose a game and it's never their fault. Never ever has anything to do with them. Your team lost it for you or your enemy was cheating. People do it everyday in every game. How often is it true? Basically never.

I've seriously encountered a handful of people I thought could be maphacking over the years. If people are using it as prevelently as you say they're REALLY shitty at it. The two times I can think of off the top of my head was a thunder panda recently grappling across the river directly on top of me with no possible knowledge of where I was. There is literally no way for him to know where I was at since I'd been foresting for a bit and his entire team was mid lane. But bam, grapple to the exact pixel I'm at and exploded. The other one was POTM shooting her arrow where I was standing (i'd thankfully moved a split second before). I was standing in a weird spot no one actually goes to and she or anyone had'nt seen me for about 30 seconds. Now I can't prove either of them cheated, it just felt fishy.

Part of me has always wanted to get some hacks and once people start accusing me of something I'm not just turn it on and be like "well I wasn't before but it's time to reap the fucking whirlwind now". People accuse other people of shit all the time with zero evidence.

Yesh, EUL made DotA. Then guinsoo took it over, but you forgot that part so maybe you're not as versed in the history as you let on =P The bottom line is HE'S 1 DUDE AND HE'S THE ONLY DUDE WORKING ON THE GAME TODAY. This is a fact which can not be disputed. You seem to be fighting saying that's not true for some reason.

Dude, you're only making yourself look bad by pretending map hacking doesnt go on in Dota. It may not in outiside areas/private servers, but it does on Bnet. At any rate, I'm sick of arguing with a fan boy. You keep on raging against the machine and worshiping Icefrog in your time capsule, the rest of us will move on with civilization.

map hack exists , maybe in a wider extent then im aware , of .

but tbh , if someone knows im coming it can be map awareness , just like i know when im about to get ganked .

but in most cases people who maphack suck anyways , theyre never gonna learn things like map awareness and they rely on their maphack to win , which wont make them take in and learn that much of the game.

maphackers , hack , cry , QQ , ragequit and thats that

yup but why are we still talking about this it seems like a waste of energy and time m most people here wont go back even if there are a hand ful off new dudes

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Quoting Xinoxlx,

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Quoting Crazy1337,
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Had a little break from this forums (not like i'm a regular) beta-testing League of Legends-Clash of Fates and found this thread, which was very interesting indeed...

So far the dota elitists, yes we are elitists. I've been a part of the Dota Allstars community for well over 4 years and so far the DA community have left the DG community alone. Do not start a war. Garena alone has over 6 million Dota players and when you include all the private servers in countries like Austarlia/New Zealand, Philipines, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore.etc Remember this does not even incude battle.net You are looking at approximately around 12 million and above Dota players.

Dota currently has over 30 million builds with heroes and items, yes 30 million. And yet its popularity exceeds in the millions and in some countries higher than World of Warcraft. Demigod is a tiny fly compared to the giant spider Dota is....For your sake do not piss the DA community...

Arrogant posts like this are exactly why I quit DoTA.

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Technically buddy, YOU are coming in here and trying to start something considering this thread is solely on the beliefs of people playing demigod, and according to your post you don't even play DG you just 'happened' upon the thread. Opinion isn't wanted here.

Quoting Crazy1337,

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Quoting The_Witchdocta,
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Quoting Crazy1337,
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Garena has 11 million players, if you noticed I didn't say all 11 million players played Dota, did I? I said 6 million players played Dota. Garena also supports other games such as CS. You sir don't know shit even if it fell abruptly into your hands. Also to the other poster calling my post arogant, are you speaking for the DG community?

Doesn't really need to speak for the community, just the people that don't play dota anymore because of people like you and your lame ass post. Grats, you can post numbers you pulled out of your ass (because thats what you did, and you admitted it 'well theres this many people on garena so maybe...yea 6 mill.....'). Any SD/GPG/DG forum admins that happen upon this forum just delete this guys posts cause he will just get what he wants, some stupid flame war between Dota and DG. Clearly the Dota community is what...50x larger than the DG community.

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Quoting DoC_HammerHand,

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Doesn't really need to speak for the community, just the people that don't play dota anymore because of people like you and your lame ass post. Grats, you can post numbers you pulled out of your ass (because thats what you did, and you admitted it 'well theres this many people on garena so maybe...yea 6 mill.....'). Any SD/GPG/DG forum admins that happen upon this forum just delete this guys posts cause he will just get what he wants, some stupid flame war between Dota and DG. Clearly the Dota community is what...50x larger than the DG community.

i agree fully i never played dota and i proberly never will i dont like playing games with assholes and by the sounds of it dota is full off them

this is dg not dota people who want to play dota go play it people who dont reply to this and say something like no to dota

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Quoting VyperXXX,

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Dude, you're only making yourself look bad by pretending map hacking doesnt go on in Dota. It may not in outiside areas/private servers, but it does on Bnet. At any rate, I'm sick of arguing with a fan boy. You keep on raging against the machine and worshiping Icefrog in your time capsule, the rest of us will move on with civilization.

You're the one making yourself look bad. Do you know english, whats is it your native tongue? When did I say map hacking didnt exist. I used a fun little program called starcrap poop war all the time in Starcraft back in the day. I never for a second said it didnt exist. Go ahead and re-read what I said and quote me where I said they didnt exist. Go ahead, I'll wait.....oh I never said that? Who looks like the ass again?

I don't think they're anywhere near as prevelent as you seem to think they are. But maybe you're one of the ones screaming map hack and leaving a game from a good facerolling. I said if people are using them as much as you claim they suck shit at using them. Hacks don't do you very good when you still get your shit tossed in games. Kind of defeats the purpose doesnt it? So people, if they are using them so much, sure aint getting any results out of them I'll tell you that much for a fact jack.

Rofl, you're just making shit up. When was I worshiping icefrog. At what point in this thread? I said HE'S THE SOLE PERSON WORKING ON DOTA. Which is 10000000000% fact. You have some made up argument to that saying zomg other people worked on it before! Good for them, no one cares, Fact is he's the only one doing it now. 1 man vs the hundreds that have worked on DG. I'd say that's pretty god damn impressive for 1 dude to be putting out content like he does. I don't see you putting out any content for anything, so allow me to applaud you good sir.

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Quoting Ouchy Dathurts,

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Rofl, you're just making shit up. When was I worshiping icefrog. At what point in this thread? I said HE'S THE SOLE PERSON WORKING ON DOTA. Which is 10000000000% fact. You have some made up argument to that saying zomg other people worked on it before! Good for them, no one cares, Fact is he's the only one doing it now. 1 man vs the hundreds that have worked on DG. I'd say that's pretty god damn impressive for 1 dude to be putting out content like he does. I don't see you putting out any content for anything, so allow me to applaud you good sir.

There you go idolizing Icefrog again . Maybe you should head over to the DemiGod suggestions forum and pitch a DemiGod based off your hero. Your hero is a piece of shit, he got where he is by stepping on the backs of dozens of talented and creative map makers.

I should not expect someone with the inability or intelligence to to actually create something (that's you) to understand complex concepts like artistic integrity or respect. So, to you sir I apologize for brining it up, by all means, continue pwnzoring teh n00bs in your moms basment to death metal.

Rock on Ouchy, rock the fuck on

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Quoting Crazy1337,

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Quoting The_Witchdocta, reply 21

Quoting Crazy1337,
reply 20
Had a little break from this forums (not like i'm a regular) beta-testing League of Legends-Clash of Fates and found this thread, which was very interesting indeed...

So far the dota elitists, yes we are elitists. I've been a part of the Dota Allstars community for well over 4 years and so far the DA community have left the DG community alone. Do not start a war. Garena alone has over 6 million Dota players and when you include all the private servers in countries like Austarlia/New Zealand, Philipines, Malaysia, Thailand and Singapore.etc Remember this does not even incude battle.net You are looking at approximately around 12 million and above Dota players.

Dota currently has over 30 million builds with heroes and items, yes 30 million. And yet its popularity exceeds in the millions and in some countries higher than World of Warcraft. Demigod is a tiny fly compared to the giant spider Dota is....For your sake do not piss the DA community...

Dota is popular, yes...but for the most part your figures are way off. And you're a little crazy to boot..hmm..how 'bout that?

Garena has 11 million players, if you noticed I didn't say all 11 million players played Dota, did I? I said 6 million players played Dota. Garena also supports other games such as CS. You sir don't know shit even if it fell abruptly into your hands. Also to the other poster calling my post arogant, are you speaking for the DG community?

I don't even need to directly respond to that other than saying...Thanks for doing my work for me...making yourself look like a jackass.

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Quoting VyperXXX,

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Quoting Ouchy Dathurts, reply 7
Rofl, you're just making shit up. When was I worshiping icefrog. At what point in this thread? I said HE'S THE SOLE PERSON WORKING ON DOTA. Which is 10000000000% fact. You have some made up argument to that saying zomg other people worked on it before! Good for them, no one cares, Fact is he's the only one doing it now. 1 man vs the hundreds that have worked on DG. I'd say that's pretty god damn impressive for 1 dude to be putting out content like he does. I don't see you putting out any content for anything, so allow me to applaud you good sir.
There you go idolizing Icefrog again . Maybe you should head over to the DemiGod suggestions forum and pitch a DemiGod based off your hero. Your hero is a piece of shit, he got where he is by stepping on the backs of dozens of talented and creative map makers.

I should not expect someone with the inability or intelligence to to actually create something (that's you) to understand complex concepts like artistic integrity or respect. So, to you sir I apologize for brining it up, by all means, continue pwnzoring teh n00bs in your moms basment to death metal.

Rock on Ouchy, rock the fuck on

I think you might have to win the award for the dumbest person I've ever seen on any forum. Which is saying quite a bit. You might want to stop into the local mental hospital and check yourself in since you seem to be seeing shit that isn't there. That's not good and I don't feel safe with you in the general population. I'd say its a threat even greater than terrorism. Have you been diagnosed with dymentia or schizophrenia? That's an honest to god question.

Lets see how much Karma you've gotten off this thread vs me. Oh look at that, your shit spewing hasn't gotten you far. You seemed to start the thread off with some brain cells to rub together but that quickly fell to shit.

PS: As far as the respect thing, you're the one that started the flame war smart kid. Do as I say not as I do your personal motto?

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Close and delete this please. This has nothing to do with Demigod and nothing worth discussing. This is only fanboy talk from both sides making this a worthless thread.

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Quoting Siphaed,

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As for DotA, it's based off of a Blizzard product and they're not a trustworthy company in my eye.

At least Blizzard releases working games, and fixes them for the better.

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kryo

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I don't care what side you're on, cut the insults and personal attacks or this thread stops. Nothing gives anyone the right to abuse other users.

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Quoting kryo,

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I don't care what side you're on, cut the insults and personal attacks or this thread stops. Nothing gives anyone the right to abuse other users.

Why threaten? Just do it.

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kryo who u speaking too there is somany dif people posting it is hard to tell

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kryo

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Any of the posters in this thread who are tossing insults about.

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Best video ever, sir.

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Quoting The_Witchdocta,

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Quoting khemintiri,
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if demigod aint fixed by that time im probly leaving , and as another poster said dota has a lot on demigod atm , demigod has freshness/bugs dota has stability/balance.

and any competetive game gets a DB fanbase , its the way the world works

Dota, balance? Not really. Demigod is, though.

I loled

You are a true and complete picture of ignorance if you think Dota is somehow more balanced than demigod.

wanna shoot yourself one more time in the foot ?

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Quoting comanoodle,

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I just can't wait to get back to playing with people who swear at me in foreign languages!

Not.

People in DotA, for some reason, expect you to memorize all the item combinations before even daring to join a game with other people. I joined a "noobs only" game and some idiot still went crazy over me standing a little too long in the base looking at the items. He said I should play with AI first...

It seems even the people who consider themselves so bad so as to join a noobs only game still feel entitled to swear. If they're so much better, why don't they go play in another, non-noobs game?

Noob's only games are swamped with "pros" who want to stop playing with "noobs." Its a little immature.

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Not worth my time.

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Dota is awesome.

Warcraft 3 resolution and graphics are not.

Same with most of the retard DOTA crowd. I can never get my friends to play it since they get flamed when they try to play online.

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pacov

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I don't think I'll be going back to Warcraft III anytime soon. Dota was great and I loved it. A review I read comparing Demigod to Dota is pretty much the reason I picked up Demigod in the first place. That said, I think schinstad said it pretty well. Dota is awesome, but the graphics and resolution are dated. What's awesome is that Blizard put the tools in place so users could create something so great. Perhaps we'll see a map builder/char designer at some point here as well.

So, new version of Dota comes out, I'll probably be here playing Demigod.

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i'll be playing dota 6.60, but i'll still be very interested in demigod. currently i'm very very bored with dota and would prefer if demigod was less buggy and stuff (the horse isn't dead yet).

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If only DOTA had online matchmaking and ranking system...

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