All that people who secure pcs want is people to stop making foolish choices.  I guess if you want to give us money, go right ahead, but it's annoying to say the least.

I suppose if I told you to get nod 32, a good firewall that blocks incoming and outgoing, run in user mode not admin, and don't download porn you'd have the same attitude?

I suppose if I told you to run in Vista's 'Sudo' equivelent, UAC, you'd tell me to screw off?

Whatever.  This is why people have problems.

I'm done with this.

P.S.  Thank you Snidely Whiplash for not wanting me to fix your pc.  One of the main reasons I got out of the repair field is because of people like you, and people in this thread, ignorant people who don't listen, and then come back 3 days later and blame me.

And one final thing:  If you truly want to be safe, it doesn't start with just a browser.

You SHOULD visit safe sites, but no one does that.  So you need protection.

Nod32 for viruses

A good firewall (I don't have a favorite)

A good spyware finder (I definately suggest spysweeper)

A rootkit finder (Rootkitreveler)

Cache cleaner (Ccleaner)

And a registry cleaner (Hijackthis is a good one)

These SHOULD be run once a week.  if a virus is found, your pc has the possibility of having problems even after it's removed, as the virus scanners cannot gurantee they will wipe the virus.  It should be reformatted.

I am reading back what I said...

Hum, I guess I'm having a bad day.  I meant to say 'UPDATE YOUR DAMN BROWSERS' and it came out all wrong.

But would you ever know?...

It's Bitdefender for me.  Nothing beats the reality of actually talking one-on-one with a dev on MSN when I did have a problem with it. [caused by an anti-spyware app]...

I'll worry about my PCs security once I start getting senile and doing stuff like 'running two software firewalls to be more secure' and telling people I have 4 megabytes of RAM.

Owait, that's my dad.  Hmm.  He used to be computer savvy...now I guess he's just too into gardening or whatever the heck he does with his time.

Ahem anyway, you guys might not be so amused to know how many hotels I've worked at that did not even have their antivirus up to date.  One of them the managers even got pissed when I updated it so that it'd actually work.

That was extremely high on my WTF meter.  All managers that deal with credit information should be REQUIRED to take security classes...you want to know why you keep hearing about big chains losing millions of CC info?  Easy.  They most likely don't even bother putting a password on the account, use incredibly stupid passwords on their 'secure' asset transmission pages and programs, and probably don't know what a computer is beside the thing that displays the pretty pictures.  Ugh.

The bottom line there is...if you EVER hear a front desk person complain about the lacking computer security, bitch at the company.  You don't need to have an insecure PC to lose your credit card info...you just need a retarded business to do it for you.