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Cowardly AI needs fixed

February 11, 2008 10:42:20 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
Ok, this game is really great but the AI always running away from a battle when your fleet is larger than his needs to be fixed. I stick it out if he overwhelms me with a larger fleet until I have to cut my losses and run to try and recover. But the AI just will keep running from a battle. This just prolongs the game and makes it boring to say the least once he pulls this tactic. Stardock please fix this problem with the AI its really annoying as hell when you are trying to fight it out to the end and cant.

Again it’s a great addicting game but when my 15 year old complains about the same thing and feels like he doesn’t want to play this game because he knows the end result with the AI being cowardly then the games failed and very flawed to a p[point.
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Reply #1 February 11, 2008 10:47:42 PM
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Generally, if you fight him in his systems, he'll be a lot 'braver'. Plus, if he flees the system while you are in the system, you can just destroy all his stuff.
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Reply #2 February 11, 2008 11:02:16 PM
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I haven't had a huge problem with the "cowardly AI" factor so far.

If he flees from my fleet, I'm perfectly content to let him do so. I'll simply take over his system that much faster, and move on to the next. Eventually, he'll stand and fight.

The key, I think, is to focus on systems, not on chasing down and eliminating fleets.
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Reply #3 February 11, 2008 11:05:50 PM
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The AI tends to be a little TOO choosy.

I mean, if a force jumps in that at a glance I can tell will wipe me out, I'll probably retreat.

If the force is larger, but not MUCH larger, I'll stick it out for a bit.

If the force is much larger but I'm making significant headway and it will provide a strategic advantage if I win, or at least bloody them a bit, I'll fight.

The AI seems to calculate how 'close' a battle is too accurately. I can't calculate numbers like the AI does, which is what the problem is.

I'm fine with the AI running if they're taking a pounding or simply overwhelmed with weaponry, but when my fleet has just one capital ship more than theirs and they run, that's ridiculous.
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Reply #4 February 11, 2008 11:30:33 PM
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Maybe just some kind of margin of error for how evenly matched the fleets are could help, or based on the remaining Hit Points of their ships?

Right now it seems to know immediately if it's outmatched, even by a little the instant a fleet jumps into a system and encounters another, or the instant the tide seems to turn. Probably half the confrontations the AI fleet sticks around for, once I knock out the first Capital Ship, they all turn tail to get out of the system. Many of these battles aren't startlingly in my favor either, just it seems like the AI keeps some kind value on all of the ships worth combined, and immediately after it passes 50/50, the AI bugs out, regardless of it's progress.

Overall this is smart, it's nice to not have a stupidly suicidal AI. But most people don't fight like that either, they'll stick out battles that aren't wholly in their favor, or stay in a battle for a specific goal (I often fight enemy fleets that outclass me with the sole goal of taking out one of the Capitol Ships, once that's done, it's time to go).

Making it not dead on accurate for the outcomes of the battles, or maybe just waiting to retreat units until they're damaged might be some kind of solution.
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Reply #5 February 11, 2008 11:33:53 PM
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Totally agreed with you there Uranium, I think you hit it exactly the AI calculates his strength compared to yours, if yours is a bigger fleet he runs from the battle. The AI defiantly needs to be fixed so they will hang out for the battles. I mean that’s what this is all about building large fleets and going at it with others. This tactic really sucks when the game is winding down and you just want to wipe out his remaining forces but it becomes irritably impossible when he just keeps jumping out of the system and flees the battle all the time. Totally unacceptable....
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Reply #6 February 11, 2008 11:40:48 PM
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I have to admit I liek the curent AI system. It adds a different layer of strategy to the one player games that couldn't be done otherwise. I enjoy having two fleets come at them from opposite sides, or have a fleet waiting for them at their retreat point. It just adds more strategic elements. That said though it is deifnietly important that they fix the PJI's to actually slow the enemy down. But other then that I htink it's workable, unless you're paying a 10 player FFA like I've been doing fo rhte last 8 hours.
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Reply #7 July 15, 2012 11:35:48 PM
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agree too!

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Reply #8 July 16, 2012 1:11:57 AM
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NECRO...everything in this thread is obsolete....AI is more suicidal than a drunk lemming...

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