nipping at my heels at 168.....
strange thing is there's people ahead of us that haven't been active in years.



Shameless Self-Promotion (how's that?)

I thought the same thing.  Be nice if there were more options to recount for the last week, last month, last 6 months, last year, and last 5 years.

Nice sig!

It funny too, I added once to my own site as well and the photos were not allowed in my own site. The site is not my own, my subscription is also not mine either evidently even though I paid for it. I know I don't know how to do alot with the walls I make for my computer out of pictures that I take. I have never learned how to make a zip file or change the sizes of my pictures so yes I have been told several times not to put personal pictures in here, however if you look at the walls you will see personal pictures of peoples kids, their cars, and several other personal things as well. I don't feel anymore like I am "picked on" I just have been told so many times that my stuff isn't good enough that I just give up. Really, like I said it's up to me to choose not to upload anything, avoid making anyone angry, funny the mod sounds angry when posting comments to me  but I can't control how they feel. I just see things posted that I would concider personal pictures and when I do it they get upset. Don't worry, I know being a mod is hard sometimes, I have to moderate several sites as well and reject stuff because people don't know what simple rules are regarding posts. I get it, I am not an artist, nor do my photos belong here. Thank You And Have A Great Day.

mschleisner ...there is specifically a section in a personal site for photographs...especially such things as that fave one of Fido the pet.

If you have a photo/image being rejected even though it is intended for your personal page that will be ONLY because you are attempting to upload it to your [personal] wallpaper gallery...and, as with anyone's wallpapers going anywhere, personal or public they are actually supposed to be wall proportion as well as suitable/passable through the moderation process.

Putting your photographs directly into your photo gallery [read NOT 'wallpaper gallery'] is not moderated.  Anything goes [as long as it is not porn/racist/etc].  These images can be any size...any content you wish.

Here is mine....yours would be similarly named....[replacing the 'Jafo' with your nick]

http://jafo.wincustomize.com/photos.aspx 

Now....if you look there you will find all sorts of images....even of my cat.  Just the place for what you were intending to submit via the wallpaper gallery upload process.

That is hardly going to appeal to anyone as a wall......other than maybe me and my 2 sisters....except the latter are not 'into' computers...so that leaves me...the rug-rat in the pic.

http://mschleisner.wincustomize.com/photos.aspx  is most likely your link to the same facility/feature of Wincustomize.com, accessible to all who wish it.

I need to apologise on behalf of any mod who may have appeared to you as 'angry'.  My guess is it is more likely to be a touch of 'frustration' towards the recurrence of misplaced submissions.

http://jafo.wincustomize.com/photos.aspx?cmd=addphoto&a=1&type=2 

That is my 'add photo' link....it is direct and unmoderated, as is yours....

 

I wonder if Po knows about that photo?

Let me just add to that and remind people they have their own site URL.  For instance mine is http://islanddog.wincustomize.com. 

You can put this in your forums signatures on other sites you visit, put it in your email sig, make a banner and link the url, there are many possiblities.

Doing this will get people to visit your page.

 

 

 

I like the moderating system of WC. I consider the stuff with rating 2 and a half as worth considering. But there can be separate critics avg. rating and users avg. rating for each work.
I think if one knows that it is a master skin or the author is a well known one then one will estimate it to be better, no matters if one is moderator or a regular downloader. If a simple and average skin is posted by a well known skinner then it may get more stars than the avg. skin posted by a begginer.

I realize they are totally different, as one is PC generated with programs such as teragen and one is camera generated then manipulated by PC.

As of date I have yet to upload a 3D render, as seeing works like yours and others, I have yet to feel good enough to attempt it..

MY use of the / was meant to be seen as an "and" not an inclusion .my bad

WC is a specific art site, as the art here is of a PC customization nature. meaning WC caters to art that is specific to customizing a PC. In Wallpapers This would mean that wallpapers deemed usable for Desktop wallpapers are typically let in, while others would not..


DA is an art site in the fullest sense, as they accept all sources of art from drawings to paintings to Poetry and any and all in between... it is a place for the next picaso's and Jean Jacques Rousseau's to share their art with others of the same mind set, as well as get exposure to thos who are curious...DA also has a Desktop customization area but it is not the main theme of the site....

dammit i just seem to get stupider as the forum continues ...ok ok so i was born two seconds ago!


but cmon HG- i could use my version of my dads infected toenail that has been made from scratch using for instance ZBRUSH by Pixtudio (by the way this is one heck of an illustration suite) and use it as a wall paper or use parts of it for use in skinning! but like i said i dont see anywere on this site stating that SPECIFIC ART STYLES OF ANY CALIBUR WILL BE REJECTED BECAUSE ITS NOT THE TYPE OF ART THAT THEY LOOK FOR!

ART IS ART and i dont know how many times i have to say this but art is universal. as far as making skins or whatever! your version of art appearently doesnt consist of oil painting/ pastell style pc rendereing stuff.. its funny how you and alot of other people have ideas that art has to be symetrical non organic looking, digital, high res or otherwise synthetic in texture ......i dont really know what IS your version of art but its not just a fractal/ gloss/ transparency /blurred world art is many styles including these but not subject to them or constrained to them! and as far as my ideas go,,,,,WC is an ok place to show any kind of art!

please tell me if i am wrong or stupid!.....i really got myself in deep with this post!  

OK...you're 'wrong or stupid' .....just kidding...

Yes, skinning is an artform ...wallpapers can be also.  However, not everything that qualifies as graphic art [pictures] will necessarily be actually suitable as a wallpaper.

This can be purely functionality issue, not aesthetics.

If an image is extremely strident and/or busy it may be genuinely abhorrent as a functioning desktop environment....but stuck over a fireplace may be perused lovingly over a bottle of red.

Wallpapers have a functionality criteria, whereas 'pure' art just needs to cover a spot of plaster wall...

You may not be wrong or stupid, but you are fighting a battle you can't win and one that you really don't have to fight.

I think you hae a good idea of what is acceptable here and what isn't.  Now is the time to decide if it's something you can deal with or not and act accordingly.

Acting accordingly, in this case, does not mean continuing this thread in the same vein.

Look what is in the main gallery.  Submission like that are acceptable.  If you submit something different and it gets sent to your personal page you have a guideline of what is NOT acceptable.  Work around that until you find whatever balance you want.

Options:
Submit work here at WC.
Accept that it may be 1) rejected because it doesn't follow the TOS; 2) moved to your personal page where you can advertise it as you will; or 3) it will go to the main gallery and be seen by millions
Or Submit it to another site where there is no moderation.

i can handle and deal with it... your right tho i am losing a debate over whats really going on! its ok


i do see your point Jafo! thats really true!

i guess i have a non-descriminative point of view as to whats acceptable in a WC gallery, i dont know tho,, i really can picture a desktop environment with "mantlepiece" art incorperated into it! and at every aspect i.e. skins, walls or whatever...

dont get me wrong i dont really stand up to a lot of whats in the galleries as far as my current set of wallpapers go! hell i only have 11 downloads on the only one that is public ...

this was just to see what goes on in the moderation process and get peoples opinion.....i definitly know that this isnt a new subject either but appearently alot of people have a say on this subject! and i am happy to have created a popular subject to conversate about!

thx for your views everyone! keep this going!

No. He's usually holding a flask and begging for sweat or some other personal bodily fluid. I hear he has a 'collection'.



Thank you, Jafo!



There must always be a buffer. This keeps all in the universe in balance. The last time they removed that buffer, Tom Hanks did 'The Da Vinci Code' and Britney Spears was allowed to have a second baby.

I don't know.. I'm kinda split on the personal pages. On one hand I like having a place I can display the things I make without having to buy my own domain. On the other hand, I wish it was somehow linked to the main search so I don't have to do the whole self promotion gig. It feels like begging and I don't like doing it. So for now, I'll finish the WB I started and will prob never put anything else up here, I'll put it up somewhere like DA where it can be searched and found with out me begging for people to go look at it.

As far as I know, and I may be really wrong here but I think Wallpapers are the only things that might get stuck in a personal gallery. The Wallpaper Gallery is HUGE and therefore gets that kind of attention, I've seen some Windowblinds in the main gallery that needed serious work but they were there...you threaten to not put anything more up here and you won't find any compassion. Nobody would want to see you leave but they aren't going to beg you to stay either. Take that as you will.   

KingDaddyDave everyone has the right to choose where they want to post their work. It's been pointed out before that DA does seem to handle things somewhat differently. There are lots of other sites to consider also.

If this is your first skin you just might find that you like doing them and start making more, getting better with each one. Having a I don't really want to do the whole self promotion gig may wind up at some time costing you money. Just something to think about.   

It's a tough call. I look back at some of the first things I did and wonder how they made it at all to the main gallery. And I still submit the occasional piece o' crap. However, some things in my personal gallery did okay and when I look at them, I realize they wouldn't have done all that much better in the main gallery.

I have what I think is one of my worst walls ever in the main gallery doing better than some I consider pretty freakin' good for my limited talents. I can't figure it out. lol. I think there are folks out there who will download almost anything that appeals to them and may never use or find a use for it. I think that they account for a small portion of the download count.

I wouldn't give up on WC. And they have the keyword search ability now, (like DA). I know when my first wall was sent to my gallery, I got upset. Not so much for being sent to the gallery. I felt cheated. I was used to having things rejected and had become very dependent on those rejections to make me look harder at what I was trying to do and to do it better. Having it sent to the personal gallery kinda gave me a pass not to try. Of course, a mod or two offered to reject every other submission if it would help. lol.

Finally, in my frustration I created the 'Personal Page Elite' (all this for a lousy shameless plug, I know). Check it out. WWW Link

I've lost count of the Personalized icons I've made for those who have stopped by, but I'd be happy and honored to make one more.

maybe I wasn't clear.. I ment as far as walls go.. not the blinds... I've been here for 4 years and don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon. I'm enjoying the fourms now that I have a job that enables me enough free time to participate and have learned a good bit in the last couple of weeks.

Thats actually to record all the stupid stuff that Po' does...



Wont be long b4 I take that Netbadger out and then that Smedley Bastard

They thought it was me

Zubaz....there's an age-limit for Race Officials....that pic was around 1958...I would have been 4...

you know come to think of it, i am not gonna upload any more of anything i like using my own creations.....from now on im just gonna subscribe, post and d-load!

and when i say this next comment im not being angry but rather more righteous:::

AT LEAST I WILL BE MY OWN CRITIC AND i while i critique my own work i will not shun the least attractive works to a hidden place were there is no sun or light and or were no one can see! as for the substitution of people ranking my works with stars,, ill just add all my photos to the WMP 11 library and click 5 stars on every single one!

Thats rating and moderation for ya! Do what i do... BE YOUR OWN MODERATOR

You never know what will strike the fancy of someone. Some of my work that I consider some of my best, gets few downloads and other times a piece I think is just OK gets a lot of downloads. So go for it and have fun! I believe that you or anyone will actually improve their work by being out there in the public eye. Somewhat like learning a new language, thinking about it does no good, you have to speak it in real life situations and suddenly you begin to learn. I am sure you will do just fine and enjoy yourself as well!

Thats exactly what I do - I can upload walls directly to the site if I chose to - but I won't.

I know pretty much what will fly - and I won't upload crap just cause I can.

Everyone thinks the world can't live without their swirly fractal - guess what ? Yes they can.

Feel free to upload to DA - no one cares there and no one moderates your work.