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ObjectDock / Start11 conflict with small taskbar and reserve edge of screen

I'm using both Start11 and ObjectDock. I have a dock above the taskbar. I've enabled "reserve edge of screen" I want to maximized windows to stay above the dock. This works fine if the taskbar in Start11 is medium size. If I change the taskbar to small, maximized windows don't reserve the edge of the screen. I've tried distance from edge to be fixed or automatic. Everything works great with the dock and windows positions if the taskbar is medium. Doesn't work if small. By the way, if position is automatic, it doesn't place it correctly (i.e. there a gap between taskbar and dock). Is there any workaround for this? Mainly want to fix maximized windows since I should be able to position the dock manually. Thanks.

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Sorry to hear you are having issues. Need more information.

Windows full version and OS Build number. Please use Winver.exe.
Start11 full version number.
ObjectDock version number.
Issue appear on any application?

Thank you,
Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

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Windows 11 version 24H2 (OS Build 26100.3775)
Start11 version 2.51 Business edition
ObjectDock version 3.01
Issue appears on any application that's maximized when Start11 has small taskbar.

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I checked, have you tried manually changing the distance of the dock so it drop directly on the small taskbar? Here is what I get when I adjust it. It look like the Maximize application still leave some space for the dock to show up.

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Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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Here's what I'm seeing.

This is correct behavior when I use medium taskbar (Start11) and automatic distance from edge (ObjectDock). My dock sits on top of taskbar. Dock is slightly shorter than full screen width so you can tell the difference between dock and taskbar since they're the same color. I have two screens. Dock is on first/primary screen. I'm only showing screen shots for primary screen.

When I open a maximized window, it sits above the dock. This is correct. Taskbar is still medium.

When I change the taskbar to small (instead of medium), at first it looks correct. This is still automatic distance from edge.

If I open a window (not maximized), the dock moves upward. This is still small taskbar and automatic distance from edge.

If I open a maximized window, the dock stays (or moves) upward and the maximized window is behind the dock. The window sits on top of the taskbar instead of the dock. This is still small taskbar and automatic distance from edge.

If I change the dock to a manual distance from edge, the dock stays in the proper position but the maximized is behind the dock.

All problems are related to the small taskbar. When medium taskbar, the dock and maximized windows are positioned properly.

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Which dock background are you using in your screenshot? If you use other dock background that come with OD3, do you still see the issue?

added: From your screenshot, how did you get the Quicklaunch Dock appear on the left of your screen?

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Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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I am using a custom background. I modified the BlackOps background by changing the color of the background-h.png file. I thought maybe I did something wrong, so I tried other backgrounds that came preinstalled. All did the same thing. I tried BlackOps, BlackOps 3D, Acrylic, DogmaX, Eminence, K-TEK, and Live Dock. As proof, here's another screen shot.

For how I made the dock on the left, here's my position settings.

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For how I made the dock on the left, here's my position settings.

I missed that part. Thanks for reminding me.

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Basj,
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Hi dkump,

Thank you for posting.

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I want to maximized windows to stay above the dock. This works fine if the taskbar in Start11 is medium size. If I change the taskbar to small, maximized windows don't reserve the edge of the screen.

In testing this, I noticed it can actually happen for either a Medium or a Small taskbar, depending on what was set after signing in. This leads me to believe a part of the process relies on when you sign in to Windows. For me, whenever the reserved area wasn't being honored by the maximized window, I found that I could sign out and back in to correct that and it would then stay that way.

Can you try setting everything (taskbar and dock) how you want it to be, then signing out of Windows and back in to see if that helps?

Best regards,

Adam McGuinness
Stardock Customer Support Specialist

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Thanks for the suggestion. After changing the taskbar to small, I rebooted. That fixed my basic problem. Dock was positioned correctly and maximized window was correctly above dock. I still have an issue, so may have to stick with the medium taskbar, but reboot may fix this for most people.

So you know, it worked if the dock was set to automatic distance from edge. If you position it manually, then a maximized goes behind the dock. See below. You may want to fix this.

I then launched a reminder program I use call 1st Clock. It places a widget on my desktop. When 1st Clock is running and the dock is automatic distance from edge, the dock shifts up when I open any program. The maximized window is behind the dock. I can move the widget and no matter where I place it on the screen, the dock is shifted up. I can even put the widget on my second monitor. In the screen shot below, the widget is on the right side about 1/4 way up from the bottom. It's designed to replace the clock in the taskbar, but that's broken with Win11 24H2. I put it in the blank space at the end of my dock. That works perfectly if taskbar is medium, but not when small. The dock shifts up the same distance no matter where the widget is placed. I suspect you won't be able to fix that for me, so will have to live with medium taskbar. For the manual position issue above, 1st Clock is not running. Thanks for your help.

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