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Reply #26 February 12, 2024 6:55:57 AM
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Quoting sdrohan,
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Quoting Putridumx,

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Unable to translate "Recent documents" in start menu




Is the PC language set to English or something else?

Sean Drohan
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there are no "Recent documents" in all language files for example in Polish translation should be "Recent documents"="Ostatnie dokumenty", in english should be "Recent documents"="Recent documents" etc.

Thanks for the bug report.  We have resolved this for the next update.

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Reply #27 February 12, 2024 6:57:05 AM
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We have also resolved combined taskbar buttons in Win10 style merging their bottom bars in combine mode.

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Reply #28 February 14, 2024 10:28:50 AM
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All,

Start11 v2.06.1 beta has been updated.  For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/525921/get;3920416

As always, thanks for your time, feedback, and support.

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Reply #29 February 14, 2024 2:23:14 PM
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Quoting sdrohan,
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All,

Start11 v2.06.1 beta has been updated.  For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/525921/get;3920416

As always, thanks for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Adding the string "Recent documents" does not solve the translation problem, it looks like the phrase "Recent documents" is set to "rigid" in files, the problem is from the beginning of Start11 v2.

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Reply #30 February 15, 2024 11:28:44 AM
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All,

Start11 v2.06.2 beta has been updated.  For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/525921/get;3920416

As always, thanks for your time, feedback, and support.

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Reply #31 February 15, 2024 5:18:56 PM
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I'm still experiencing explorer crashes while searching in the start menu (Windows 10 style). Search only seems to work if I disable the Start11 search, forcing the windows search to be used. 

Windows 11 Insider Build 26058 (Dev)
Start 11 v2.06

Here are the related errors from event viewer:

Application: Explorer.EXE
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: exception code c0000005, exception address 00007FFC55FD0730

 

Faulting application name: Explorer.EXE, version: 10.0.26058.1000, time stamp: 0x1dbb13b0
Faulting module name: Start10_64.dll, version: 2.0.6.1, time stamp: 0x65cc9da9
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000000c0730
Faulting process id: 0x1ED0
Faulting application start time: 0x1DA605A78C65F95
Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Start11\Start10_64.dll
Report Id: cf4f25b1-5022-4e4d-9c6d-517e68af15db
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

 

The shell stopped unexpectedly and C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exe was restarted.

 

Fault bucket , type 0
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Explorer.EXE
P2: 10.0.26058.1000
P3: 1dbb13b0
P4: Start10_64.dll
P5: 2.0.6.1
P6: 65cc9da9
P7: c0000005
P8: 00000000000c0730
P9: 
P10: 

Analysis symbol: 
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: cf4f25b1-5022-4e4d-9c6d-517e68af15db
Report Status: 4100
Hashed bucket: 
Cab Guid: 0

 

Fault bucket 1915421404698557246, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Explorer.EXE
P2: 10.0.26058.1000
P3: 1dbb13b0
P4: Start10_64.dll
P5: 2.0.6.1
P6: 65cc9da9
P7: c0000005
P8: 00000000000c0730
P9: 
P10: 

Analysis symbol: 
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: cf4f25b1-5022-4e4d-9c6d-517e68af15db
Report Status: 2147487744
Hashed bucket: 112d41830b5958a88a94f19e863cbb3e
Cab Guid: 0

 

 

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Reply #32 February 15, 2024 5:36:04 PM
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Quoting Tharkys,
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I'm still experiencing explorer crashes while searching in the start menu (Windows 10 style). Search only seems to work if I disable the Start11 search, forcing the windows search to be used. 

Windows 11 Insider Build 26058 (Dev)
Start 11 v2.06

Here are the related errors from event viewer:

Application: Explorer.EXE
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: exception code c0000005, exception address 00007FFC55FD0730

 

Faulting application name: Explorer.EXE, version: 10.0.26058.1000, time stamp: 0x1dbb13b0
Faulting module name: Start10_64.dll, version: 2.0.6.1, time stamp: 0x65cc9da9
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000000c0730
Faulting process id: 0x1ED0
Faulting application start time: 0x1DA605A78C65F95
Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock\Start11\Start10_64.dll
Report Id: cf4f25b1-5022-4e4d-9c6d-517e68af15db
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

 

The shell stopped unexpectedly and C:\Windows\system32\userinit.exe was restarted.

 

Fault bucket , type 0
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Explorer.EXE
P2: 10.0.26058.1000
P3: 1dbb13b0
P4: Start10_64.dll
P5: 2.0.6.1
P6: 65cc9da9
P7: c0000005
P8: 00000000000c0730
P9: 
P10: 

Analysis symbol: 
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: cf4f25b1-5022-4e4d-9c6d-517e68af15db
Report Status: 4100
Hashed bucket: 
Cab Guid: 0

 

Fault bucket 1915421404698557246, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Explorer.EXE
P2: 10.0.26058.1000
P3: 1dbb13b0
P4: Start10_64.dll
P5: 2.0.6.1
P6: 65cc9da9
P7: c0000005
P8: 00000000000c0730
P9: 
P10: 

Analysis symbol: 
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: cf4f25b1-5022-4e4d-9c6d-517e68af15db
Report Status: 2147487744
Hashed bucket: 112d41830b5958a88a94f19e863cbb3e
Cab Guid: 0

 

 

You seem to still have some files from 2.0.6.1 installed.  Uninstall start11, reboot and then install the 2.0.6.2 version.

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Reply #33 February 15, 2024 5:42:32 PM
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Unable to translate "(page #number)"

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Reply #34 February 15, 2024 6:53:47 PM
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Is this to allow the use of other right-click menu apps like Nilesoft Shell we'd mentioned briefly before? I copied/pasted this from the beginning of this thread:

  • Added string registry key to use Win32 menus on right click on the taskbar to allow third party extension of the menu. Use HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8    S11_UseOldRightClickMenus = 1

I can't find that in the registry anywhere. Can someone please tell me how to implement this? There are spaces in key which I suppose aren't supposed to be there.

 

Thanks,

 

P.S. I'd asked earlier and am still looking for a response but why might my start menu be opening on the last page instead of the first like usual?

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Reply #35 February 15, 2024 7:26:29 PM
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Is this to allow the use of other right-click menu apps like Nilesoft Shell we'd mentioned briefly before? I copied/pasted this from the beginning of this thread:

 


    • Added string registry key to use Win32 menus on right click on the taskbar to allow third party extension of the menu. Use HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8    S11_UseOldRightClickMenus = 1

 


I can't find that in the registry anywhere. Can someone please tell me how to implement this? There are spaces in key which I suppose aren't supposed to be there.

 

Thanks,

 

P.S. I'd asked earlier and am still looking for a response but why might my start menu be opening on the last page instead of the first like usual?

You'll have to create the new String "S11_UseOldRightClickMenus" and then set the value to 1. You will probably have to reboot for this to take effect.

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Reply #36 February 16, 2024 4:54:24 AM
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Quoting sdrohan,
reply 30

All,

Start11 v2.06.2 beta has been updated.  For details, please see:

https://forums.stardock.com/525921/get;3920416

As always, thanks for your time, feedback, and support.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

v2.06.2 beta solve translation problem

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Reply #37 February 16, 2024 11:28:37 AM
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Quoting trparky,
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Quoting sdrohan,

reply 1


Tweaked Start11 autohide mode to no longer reserve any space at the bottom of the screen.  This does mean the very bottom pixel of a maximized app isn't clickable, but this shouldn't be an issue as click targets should never be so small.

This broke bringing the taskbar up from autohide when Microsoft Edge is maximized. This doesn't seem to be an issue with any other window but Microsoft Edge. It could also be a problem with other Chrome-like browsers, but I didn't test.

I've gone back to version 2.05 for the meantime until this issue is fixed.



I just checked here and cannot reproduce this.  MS edge and Chrome both work just fine when it is maximized.

You are not using F11 fullscreen mode are you?

 

FWIW, I get a similar problem using Firefox (Floorp specifically). When my browser is maximized, I cannot pull up the taskbar when hidden with auto-hide using the mouse cursor at the bottom of the screen. When I hit the Windows key, it begins to behave as expected until the next time I restart or maximize my browser.

Start11 v2.06 Beta (Steam)

Windows 11 23H2

Latest version of Floorp.

NOTE: This was NOT an issue with Start11 v2.05.

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Reply #38 February 16, 2024 1:03:46 PM
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Quoting kilted_Frog,
reply 37


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 9






Quoting trparky,

reply 7










Quoting sdrohan,



reply 1




Tweaked Start11 autohide mode to no longer reserve any space at the bottom of the screen.  This does mean the very bottom pixel of a maximized app isn't clickable, but this shouldn't be an issue as click targets should never be so small.


This broke bringing the taskbar up from autohide when Microsoft Edge is maximized. This doesn't seem to be an issue with any other window but Microsoft Edge. It could also be a problem with other Chrome-like browsers, but I didn't test.

I've gone back to version 2.05 for the meantime until this issue is fixed.




I just checked here and cannot reproduce this.  MS edge and Chrome both work just fine when it is maximized.

You are not using F11 fullscreen mode are you?



 

FWIW, I get a similar problem using Firefox (Floorp specifically). When my browser is maximized, I cannot pull up the taskbar when hidden with auto-hide using the mouse cursor at the bottom of the screen. When I hit the Windows key, it begins to behave as expected until the next time I restart or maximize my browser.

Start11 v2.06 Beta (Steam)

Windows 11 23H2

Latest version of Floorp.

NOTE: This was NOT an issue with Start11 v2.05.

I would recommend enabling the option in Start11 2.0.6.2 which reserves one pixel space which will work as it did in 2.05

Unfortunately we cannot reproduce this here which almost certainly means some other thing is interacting with this.

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Reply #39 February 16, 2024 8:36:03 PM
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Quoting sdrohan,
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Added option for autohide to reserve 1 pixel of screen space if people encounter issues
This fixes the issue that I talked about that was introduced in the first beta version of 2.06.

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Reply #40 February 16, 2024 10:27:16 PM
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Quoting pelaird,
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You'll have to create the new String "S11_UseOldRightClickMenus" and then set the value to 1. You will probably have to reboot for this to take effect.

That has it working as expected. Thank you very much Pelaird

 

P.S. any ideas on why my start menu is opening on the last page and not the first?

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Reply #41 February 17, 2024 2:48:11 AM
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Unfortunately, 2.0.6.2 is not available on Steam at the time of this post. When that changes I'll be sure to try the update!

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Reply #42 February 17, 2024 8:03:34 AM
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Quoting carfar2,
reply 40


Quoting pelaird,
reply 35

You'll have to create the new String "S11_UseOldRightClickMenus" and then set the value to 1. You will probably have to reboot for this to take effect.



That has it working as expected. Thank you very much Pelaird

 

P.S. any ideas on why my start menu is opening on the last page and not the first?

There is a feature in Start11v2 that allows you to set a specific page of the Start menu to open for a specific Desktop or Virtual Desktop. My guess is that you set the last page to open with your current Desktop. Open your menu to the first page and right click somewhere on the Start menu and select "Open menu on this page for current desktop."

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Reply #43 February 17, 2024 9:00:21 AM
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On Windows 11 240122-1157 when any window is maximised by nice enhanced toolbar with rounded corners 

BBecomes a normal taskbar again;

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Reply #44 February 17, 2024 9:17:45 AM
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Quoting rege0036,
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On Windows 11 240122-1157 when any window is maximised by nice enhanced toolbar with rounded corners 



BBecomes a normal taskbar again;


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Reply #45 February 18, 2024 10:01:21 PM
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I've got an issue that I'm not sure where to fix. I've tried looking myself, but this is what's going on, see below image.

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Reply #46 February 18, 2024 10:41:00 PM
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oh actually, I was able to fix it but turning off transparency effects in windows 11 settings

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Reply #47 February 18, 2024 10:46:25 PM
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I've got an issue that I'm not sure where to fix. I've tried looking myself, but this is what's going on, see below

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. You've resolved it, yes?

https://forums.stardock.com/526004/get;3921474

Thank you,

Basj,
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Reply #48 February 19, 2024 2:43:49 AM
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yes I did but i dont think the transparency was the issue I think it was the system theme. I changed the theme in system settings for windows 11 to dark and it fixed it  leaving the system theme on light i would still have the issue thou  

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Reply #49 February 19, 2024 4:18:17 AM
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yes I did but i dont think the transparency was the issue I think it was the system theme. I changed the theme in system settings for windows 11 to dark and it fixed it  leaving the system theme on light i would still have the issue thou  

What Start11 style you're using? Windows 7 or Modern? On Windowblinds?

Thank you,

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Reply #50 February 21, 2024 4:13:49 AM
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Hi all,

When using start11 taskbar setting "Start11 autohide mode" the desktop icons get very small (about the size of the icons in the system tray). When disabling autohide and enabling windows 11 taskbar autohide, the taskbar icons size reverts from large to medium.

So: Either have start11 autohide on and get large taskbar icons (if set to large) but very small desktop icons, or disable start11 autohide and use windows autohide, and then get normal desktop icons, but medium size taskbar icons (even when set to large).

Not a huge problem, but it would be nice if it got solved.

Henry

 

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