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Let’s try this again - CS2 for free

By on January 7, 2013 10:48:45 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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Earlier today Island Dog posted this. The post disappeared… and Adobe was totally swamped as everyone and his mother stampeded to get it.

You’ll have to get an Adobe account.

Second?

 

edit:

The link to the download was removed for very good reason. What both I.D. and I missed [insert embarrassed here] was the key point:

The link was for licensed users. Adobe made no mention of that fact on the page. 



Why Adobe chose to do something this way is quite beyond me, and never occurred to I.D. or me... as it encouraged non-licensed users to download and use software which they were not entitled to use. In my naiveté, I thought that since it is relatively older software, Adobe was being magnanimous. After all, who in his right mind would post download links and a serial key together without the following explanation which only appeared in a blog later on?

 

Clearly, everyone knows SD's and stand on unlicensed software and images.

I regret not having understood that Adobe erred in its choice of methods, and any inconvenience caused to anyone here.

 

By the way, Adobe's faux pas might have been a very clever business move:

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/01/why-adobes-massive-photoshop-fail-couldve-been-a-clever-business-move/

 

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January 8, 2013 8:12:42 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Just for the heck of it, I went to Adobe's website and did a search for "CS2 free". The first link that pops up is the downloads page with the download links and serials. There is no mention that there are any requirements other than...

CS2 System Requirements 

  • Mac OS X v.10.2.8–v.10.3.8. PowerPC® G4 or G5 processor
  • Microsoft® Windows® 2000/Windows XP. Intel® Pentium® III or 4 processor

No where does it state that this is only for prior customers that already own a copy of said software.

Since I already own CS5, the files are of no intrest to me. I do however find all of this very interesting and will be checking to see if Adobe changes their mind on having this avalable to the general public, even without signing in. 

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January 8, 2013 8:41:10 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I did the same, Mike. It led me to the download page... 

I'm surprised that Adobe hasn't made an Official statement regarding this question. 

The link that I got going to Adobe.com did, however, have "entitlement" in it...

It is also true that Gizmodo.uk published this:

 

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January 8, 2013 9:37:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I went there too and I found a host of Adobe stuff listed together with the serial #'s. I decided to try for PS Elements 4.0/5.0

Now if I could only get this dl to speed up a little bit before Adobe changes its mind. lol

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January 8, 2013 10:46:41 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Zagg.com has quoted an Adobe manager here: 

http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/is-adobe-really-giving-away-photoshop-cs2-for-free-yes-and-no/

As I posted in the edited OP, 

"To make a long, convoluted story short:

Yes: you can get a working copy of the entire Creative Suite 2 (CS2), directly from Adobe.
No: That version doesn’t officially and legitimately belong to you, unless you already have a CS2 license.

So, whether you decide to download and install it is entirely up to you. As always, we aren’t advocating you steal or pirate any software."

Thus, deleting the links here was completely consistent with SD's policies.

 

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January 8, 2013 11:17:35 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

So you take it upon yourself to protect a multi-million dollar company? Interesting.

 

I'd hope people would take it upon themselves to protect anyone's IP rights, trademarks (and other) of anyone else, because it's the right thing to do, not because we're privy to their net-worth documents. ♥

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January 8, 2013 11:34:12 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

What a second. If Adobe has a page with downloads and serials that is not pirating. They are offering it for free. It's not like the software and serials are on a warez or torrent site.

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January 9, 2013 12:01:41 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Kona: It might seem like it. But it's supposed to be only for those who already posses a legitimate license for the product.

 

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January 9, 2013 12:37:44 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
What a second. If Adobe has a page with downloads and serials that is not pirating. They are offering it for free. It's not like the software and serials are on a warez or torrent site.

Kona...the downloads and serials are 'supposed to be' for existing customers/owners of these products to access to reinstall if necessary.

The intent is 'apparently' NOT to be for anyone looking for a freebie.

The fact they appear to have left the links publicly accessible is possibly an error ON THEIR PART so, until proven otherwise we are NOT going to be party to increasing the magnitude of their apparent mistake.

If and only if FORMAL declaration is made [by Adobe] that these links and serials are available to anyone who wants them...aka 'free' then we can allow links.

Theft is a provable offence whether the door was locked..or not....

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January 9, 2013 3:08:17 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kona0197,
What a second. If Adobe has a page with downloads and serials that is not pirating. They are offering it for free. It's not like the software and serials are on a warez or torrent site.

no, the real world analogy would be the pick-your-own-farms where you leave the money in a box.

but hey, download some old copy of Photoshop there. it's not as morally wrong as stealing some old lady's purse. it is still theft though, so drop the hypocrisy and stay quiet.

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January 9, 2013 3:21:38 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,
The fact they appear to have left the links publicly accessible is possibly an error ON THEIR PART so, until proven otherwise we are NOT going to be party to increasing the magnitude of their apparent mistake.

 

i don't really think it's an error. i think they value the convenience of their existing customers higher than the "loss" (there probably is none). i don't think there are that many individuals that run paid versions of CS 2, rather larger organisations or companies with multiple licences for old pcs/macs that do not need an upgrade.

not every software company does provide downloads for old purchased versions. but this is one more reason why Adobe products are worth their money.

 

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January 9, 2013 4:16:48 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Could it be for the notoriety? Adobe is not exactly known for its altruism. It still claims nearly full price for older programs, a gimmick to tease existing owners of their software and a come on for new buyers. Many are struggling with this economy including big business. Adobe might be feeling the pinch too and needs to increase sales to keep the profits coming in and the company afloat. It could be a host of different reasons. But I bet its popularity won't be lost on the boss. Besides.....CS2 is so yesteryear. There are much better proggies out there now. What better way to unload stuff.

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January 9, 2013 4:45:23 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting moshi,
i think they value the convenience of their existing customers higher than the "loss" (there probably is none).

Moshi's probably right.....however there's always an isse re determining potential/actual loss due to an action...as the action itself destroys all oportunity for comparitive result.

Same thing occurs when people claim nearby multi-unit developments adversely affect their property values.  You cannot test/prove it without instant 'magic', ie. instantaneous before-and-after auctions...

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January 9, 2013 7:22:49 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Uvah,
Could it be for the notoriety? Adobe is not exactly known for its altruism. It still claims nearly full price for older programs, a gimmick to tease existing owners of their software and a come on for new buyers. Many are struggling with this economy including big business. Adobe might be feeling the pinch too and needs to increase sales to keep the profits coming in and the company afloat. It could be a host of different reasons. But I bet its popularity won't be lost on the boss. Besides.....CS2 is so yesteryear. There are much better proggies out there now. What better way to unload stuff.

 

come on ... why exactly is Adobe "evil"?

most software companies that sell older versions do not sell them at junk prices. how else would they sell their new versions? CS7 is an improvement over CS6 for example, but not an improvement that would be worth hundreds of dollars.

Adobe donates code to open source projects.

Adobe does release it's own free and/or open source software. Project Rome for example. a pretty cool DTP solution that i still use (you can still find a download link the Mac version at Softpedia, being an Air app it should run on pcs as well). or Source Code Pro for example, which is my favorite font for coding. while Consolas is really good, i like the brackets in Source Code Pro better. (yes, i care about such things.)

Adobe donates software to charities.

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January 9, 2013 7:40:31 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting moshi,
Adobe does release it's own free and/or open source software.

I got my Photoshop Elements 2 [which I still use] bundled with a video card.  [good enough for me as my weapon of choice is only PSP6]...

If I ever master those old proggies I'll think about updating....

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January 9, 2013 7:57:50 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

PSP6 ?

give Sumopaint a try then. it is free and runs in a browser window. it's pretty awesome actually, even has layer styles.

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January 9, 2013 8:06:02 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting moshi,
PSP6 ?

give Sumopaint a try then. it is free and runs in a browser window. it's pretty awesome actually, even has layer styles.

If it's 64bit it might be worth it....the only issue I have with PSP6 is it's 32bit and I can hit its ram limit - even with LMA aware.

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January 9, 2013 9:01:48 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,

Quoting moshi, reply 40PSP6 ?

give Sumopaint a try then. it is free and runs in a browser window. it's pretty awesome actually, even has layer styles.

If it's 64bit it might be worth it....the only issue I have with PSP6 is it's 32bit and I can hit its ram limit - even with LMA aware.

 

nah, it's a flash app. so likely the desktop version requires Air (means 32-bit).

but Paint.NET is 64-bit, free and likely more powerful than PSP6.

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January 9, 2013 10:33:44 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I started out with Paint.net. It was fine until I discovered Photoshop. I still have it in fact. There are some tuts on the Paint.net website that I haven't found on any of the Photoshop sites for tuts.....not yet at least. Sometimes for nostalgia I'll open it up and play. Lets nor forget the Gimp. That one is pretty good.

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January 9, 2013 3:58:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The main thing is actually knowing your way around a proggy....and I know my way around psp...though still finding better ways to do stuff...after a decade or so....

About the only thing I use PE for is such stuff as putting text into an arc ...the rest in graphics/manip is via PSP6...

A multi-layered 4096x4096 res bitmap can hit the mem limit...so that and curving text is the only deficiencies the old PSP has...[for me]...

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January 11, 2013 10:32:47 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I noticed on majorgeeks a few minutes ago that they're promoting CS2 as an Adobe giveaway

I also noticed [courtesy of majorgeeks] that over at Adobe the links to those 'free' products are still live.

Hmmm, me thinks somebody at Adobe is either bending the truth or telling lies

There's a logical explanation to all this.... it's just that Adobe's not 'fessing' up to what that is.

In the meantime, mrs s has PSP 8 10, 11 and 12 to choose from... and Photoshop Elements 5.

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January 11, 2013 2:49:14 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Ya I suppose if Adobe eventually throws their hands up and admits "Oh we don't care, everybody just take it", then I'll bring it down.  Until then though I have to take them at their word and just leave it alone.  I really have no need or desire to feel like I've gotten away with something.

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January 11, 2013 3:27:42 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

 

I couldn't agree more Dave.  Well said.

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January 11, 2013 3:35:34 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting starkers,
There's a logical explanation to all this

Seems that all you need is an account with Adobe. Those who do not have one might not be able to dl the software but....to test this I dl'd Photoshop Elements 5.0 and didn't need to sign in. John Nack of Adobe said they are doing it to help their customers because the activation server went belly up and had to be retired. The products downloaded do not need to be activated. Also there's a disclaimer on the blog page that says "The views are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of Adobe systems Inc." His words.

Almost but Admin says no links.

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January 12, 2013 3:30:00 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Uvah,
Seems that all you need is an account with Adobe. Those who do not have one might not be able to dl the software but....to test this I dl'd Photoshop Elements 5.0 and didn't need to sign in.

That's precisely my point... the downloads are available [still] to people without Adobe accounts, and the fact that Adobe has known about this for several days, and still has done nothing to close access to non-customers, well that suggests to me, "look, we're not saying it officially, but please, help yourself".  I mean, seriously, if Adobe was true to its word, and the software is intended for registered owners only, then surely those download links would have been restricted to registered users as soon as the 'pubic access mistake' was discovered.

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January 12, 2013 4:55:21 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

This is so weird. One part says they're not giving it away. Another says they are. A spokeperson says only for registered users of CS2 who already have a license yet...anyone can go to the site and dl CS2, the whole nine if they want. One thing that confuses me, and that ain't hard to do, if the server went kaput and they had to retire it why then isn't there another, a backup, to take its place. Are they or are they not giving it away. Yes or no!

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