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Australia, USA and now the U.K. Want “Internet Usage Databases”

By on July 20, 2012 11:33:44 AM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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It’s no coincidence. SOPA, PIPA, the new measure proposed in Australia and now the in the UK a bill has been proposed a bill which would allow officials to view metadata, like the names of files that were transferred, when and to whom messages were sent, and what websites have been accessed, without a warrant, which would be needed to actually view the content itself.

Who could look? Well, pretty much everyone from Law Enforcement to Tax Inspectors. So, there are multiple potentials for abuse – from hackers as well. Great strategy: Instead of multiple, small and well hidden (and protected) targets to one big fat one which some idiot will undoubtedly be unencrypted and protected by the most secure of passwords: 123456. That’s no exaggeration since without doubt, many of the smaller databases will be stored as “plain text”.

Unfortunately, these security minded people will be able to build very detailed maps of communications and friends and if someone gets accused of something (viz. M. Bachmann) even correctly, suspicion will inevitably be cast on innocent people and their lives and reputations will be ruined. Shades of McCarthyism.

What bothers me is that there’s a need for these databases at all. Our leaders are quick to say, “Terrorists could never destroy the principles of the United States.” Would that were true. Seems to me exactly that has happened. Of course, they might have been saying that cynically: That destruction occurred decades before.

So, “The League of Internet Protectors” has come into being (on LinkdIn):

“The Internet Protectors brings together professional experts, knowledgeable individuals, and normal human beings, all of whom are interested in the same thing: a safe online experience that engenders trust and confidence while enabling the full benefits of today's web.”

Great. They’ll “advise” people who aren’t in the least, interested. When did the government ever do that?

“The Internet Defense League” has also been born. Today. These folks are serious. They have a “Cat signal”. Watch for it.

"Together, our websites and personal networks can mobilize the planet to defend the internet from bad laws and monopolies."

OK… that’s it for today.

 

Sources:

http://www.neowin.net/news/the-uk-wants-to-build-a-giant-database-of-internet-usage

http://www.neowin.net/news/internet-defense-league-has-real-world-cat-signals

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July 20, 2012 12:13:09 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Big Brother has never seemed so close

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July 20, 2012 12:25:46 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

He's already here.

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July 20, 2012 12:40:18 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Fear is an illusion when ordinary people mobilize their thoughts and their hearts and don't allow themselves to be pushed around any more.  For a healthy dose of positivity and global community spirit, discover Avaaz.org and the great things they've been doing.

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July 20, 2012 1:26:42 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting StevenAus,
Fear is an illusion when ordinary people mobilize their thoughts and their hearts and don't allow themselves to be pushed around any more.

Too right. Great site btw, StevenAus! Thanks, mate! Just watched some Jack Vidgen again... WOW!

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July 20, 2012 2:48:48 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

You know, this sort of thing is something that you can easily rationalize about and decide it isn't so ominous but what it really represents is a shift in the way we define freedom.

That might sound cliched or conspiracy theorist toned but I really mean it.

It's a natural, subtle progression that has practical intents at it's inception but that is the very process that starts to erode the idea of respect for the individual.

We are more and more making the statement through repeated action that, "The needs of the organization outweigh personal freedoms.".

Stopping online theft, discovering terrorist cells and all that are noble intentions and are important--but you end up allowing fear of such things to rule in the place of human liberty.

It's going to be really interesting for the next generation--they inherit the fruit of all of this...in spades.

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July 20, 2012 3:36:59 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Perhaps they will have the wisdom to repeal some of the anti-freedom laws.  It could happen.

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July 20, 2012 4:18:58 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jythier,
It could happen.

Don't hold your breath.

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July 20, 2012 4:47:51 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The world is changing...and not in a good way.

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July 20, 2012 4:52:07 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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July 20, 2012 5:01:46 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Our governments are already maintaining databases of our internet usage and actively monitoring the contents of that traffic. This content just can't be used in court without obtaining a search warrant, but that doesn't stop the various agencies from making further use of that information. Just consider the recent discovery of the Stuxnet and Flame worms that at this very moment could be infiltrating your computer. Anyone who believes that Microsoft and Apple aren't complicit in allowing these worms to infiltrate is living in a dream world.

The US at least has a very checkered history of stealth projects funded by secret accounts. How long was the National Security Agency (NSA) in operation before even Congress became aware of its existence?

"It's easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission!"

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July 20, 2012 5:48:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting kku,
Just consider the recent discovery of the Stuxnet and Flame worms that at this very moment could be infiltrating your computer.

Nope. I got the 'fix'. Also, I'm not a worthy target.

Quoting teddybearcholla,

Oh noes! I been tbc banned!  

 

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July 20, 2012 7:15:32 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Future: Encoded/Ecrypted files, filenames, websites. Closed communities. Dark arts and voodoo magic. Spies, lies and espionage. Wiggly fingers to a spooky 'Woooooh' sound.

Databases: porn traffic. lots of porn traffic. - have fun regexp'ing that out.

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July 20, 2012 8:49:00 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

This is not about stopping terrorism or anything else that could threaten our safety and freedoms.  No, this is all about control and financial gain... making us captive citizens with fewer and fewer personal options/freedoms than ever before.

Stalinism never died, it just took on a new face and branched out to conquer new lands as well as old.  Sadly, the people who condemned Stalin are now the ones who are perpetuating this totalitarian society we're entering/have already begun to live in.  Yes, it is those who govern the 'land of the free'.  Land of the free my arse, it's a complete fallacy and the farthest thing from the truth, but so many blindly believe it so it must be fact.... fools.

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July 20, 2012 8:55:22 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Quoting Sinperium,


We are more and more making the statement through repeated action that, "The needs of the organization outweigh personal freedoms.".

 

...and there it is.  The yankee F-word (freedom)....hehe

 

We canucks realised long ago that "personal anything" (least of all freedom) was non-existent and fighting the trend or establishment would just prove to be frustrating and futile.  So you know what we did?

We smoked a little......drank a little more (of our beer that doesn't taste like yankee water...hehe) and danced a hell of a lot with our hot canadian women.  You know what?  We're happier than pigs in shit!   

 

Personal F.......... .... whatever....(or at the least the illusion therof) you can have em!

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July 20, 2012 10:09:45 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

LOL! the_Monk... good to see you back! 

Joined Avaaz.org and caught up on some z's. 

 

Spent a lot of time thinking about the poor folks in Aurora. My thoughts go out to those families.

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July 21, 2012 4:27:03 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting the_Monk,

Quoting Sinperium, reply 6
We canucks realised long ago that "personal anything" (least of all freedom) was non-existent and fighting the trend or establishment would just prove to be frustrating and futile.  So you know what we did?

We smoked a little......drank a little more (of our beer that doesn't taste like yankee water...hehe) and danced a hell of a lot with our hot canadian women.  You know what?  We're happier than pigs in shit!   

Personal F.......... .... whatever....(or at the least the illusion therof) you can have em!

And I just re-watched the Firefly series.  Sounds like a bunch of Alliance go-se to me.

We all have personal freedom.  We can steal, misbehave and even shoot up a threater and nothing in the 'verse can stop us (yeah, I'm sticking with that Firefly thing).

How we collectively look at the importance of freedoms though is the bigger picture.  Read history and watch what happens to societies that accept the premise that, "the good of the state comes before the good of the individuals that make it up".  It never ends well.

In a society where we all value the individual, we can get behind the law of the state to protect society and even trust it at times to have exceptional powers to deal with the extremes like the guy in Colorado or Al Quaida, etc....because it's run by "people like us".

When the state becomes a person--and a person more important than any others--then we have a reason for concern.  Such a state can redefine freedom on a whim or in an instant.  It's a new divine sovereign and a tyrant at will. People that never dissent or act against such a state are what empowers it--but even resistance has to be balanced by the idea that all individuals are valuable or those who resist are as bad as the state they resist.

Count me out of those throwing up their hands and saying, "Resistance is futile--make yourself comfortable and just don't worry" but also count me out of those who would destroy individuals to resist.

Still, we must resist.

(I saw Canadian Bacon--I'm on to you Canucks...Nathan Fillion excepted).

 

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