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Why do people "need" spoilers?

By on June 20, 2012 11:08:14 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Jafo

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I know everyone sees them on racing cars, especially Formula One, where it's evolved into a science and artform......

....but in reality 'low-speed' [that's what it is] aerodynamics will show they are as beneficial as the proverbial 'tits-on-a-bull' at anything RESEMBLING a legal speed limit.

Yes, an F1 develops enough downforce at 120mph to drive upside-down on a ceiling....[which is totally impractical], and even the road car I drive has a rear 'spoiler' added because designers discovered the car wanted to 'wander' at speeds around 130-odd.

OK, so they look 'groovy'....like Starsky and Hutch's 'stripes'....but really....

 

The issue is with people who insist on SPOILING other people's enjoyment of a film or TV series, etc.... why?....to show off that they have seen it already...or what?

Here's a hint.

It's called a "spoiler" FOR A REASON!

 

What say you learn communication skills which enable you to talk ABOUT a movie  WITHOUT ruining it for anyone else, OK?

It's actually NOT THAT HARD.

And no, alerts are meaningless....and about as useful [usually] as warning someone you are about to shoot with..."this might hurt".

 

Remember the movie with the line "I see dead people"?  Imagine how that can be SPOILED.

Saying [about Titanic]..."oh, the boat sinks in the end..." isn't quite the same thing....and that's where common sense kicks in....along with consideration for others.

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June 20, 2012 11:13:08 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

What in the world are those who do it thinking? 

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June 20, 2012 11:20:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Yeah, I hate that also, ruins the movie.

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June 20, 2012 12:03:55 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I know how this thread is going to end . . but I'm not going to say anythign about it.

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June 20, 2012 12:28:11 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Please. Just lend your.... supprot.  

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June 20, 2012 12:57:27 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

You guys are nuts....that's why I like you. 

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June 20, 2012 1:04:08 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I was going to say something....but Jafo would  probably say that I SPOILED the thread

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June 20, 2012 1:25:44 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Mostly it's just people that want to discuss the whole thing with each other combined with the fact that the world doesn't revolve around you.

 

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June 20, 2012 2:18:02 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Well the way i see it. If you hate spoilers that much, no one is forcing you to read/watch them.

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June 20, 2012 2:24:52 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Downforce.  Put one on my lawnmower, cut 3 minutes off my mowing time.

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June 20, 2012 3:50:44 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

I guess this is in part a response to our discussion yesterday. I can imagine it's annoying having to read spoilers about stuff you would like to see/read/do yourself. But that is part of your job isn't it?

Quoting Heavenfall,
Mostly it's just people that want to discuss the whole thing with each other combined with the fact that the world doesn't revolve around you.
 

A little harsh, but I agree. If you just want someone's opinion whether something is worth reading/seeing/doing, you read a review. Forums are for discussing it afterwards. If those discussions couldn't go further than 'I thought the plot was good', 'I saw the plot twist coming from a mile away', 'I laughed so hard when the thing with the thing and the guy happened', or 'I think we haven't seen the last of you-know-who', there wouldn't be much point in having the discussion now would there?

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June 20, 2012 5:07:38 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I wish my truck had a spoiler....

 

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June 20, 2012 6:18:30 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Satrhan,
there wouldn't be much point in having the discussion now would there?

So don't.

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June 20, 2012 6:51:17 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Well I'm sorry, unless you make it an official forum rule that the actual content of something cannot be discussed here, I will continue to talk about it with those that are interested.

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June 20, 2012 7:52:49 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Hehe, I know how TV's season 2 of Once Upon a Time will end in 2013...

But then, how many people here actually watch it?

Probably not too many and the majority would not be perturbed by a 'spoiler'.

And those who do watch it would probably have forgotten I said anything by then

So it won't matter if I ramble on about the credits and shit like that....

 

 

 

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June 20, 2012 8:40:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Heavenfall,
Mostly it's just people that want to discuss the whole thing with each other combined with the fact that the world doesn't revolve around you.

The world does not revolve around exclusionists who believe they have the right to disclose plot details ruining the enjoyment of others.

If someone wishes to get indepth with minutae do it 'exclusively' via Personal Message.  ONLY your target audience will be affected.

 

Have you ever wondered about the subtext of "The first rule of Fight Club"?

 

How many of you out there have had the results of a race/match/tournament revealed to you/blurted out to you BEFORE you had sat down to watch it?

Was it fun?

 

How can the freedom of Stardock's Forums be equated with warnings 'excluding' members from accessing certain threads in case their enjoyment [of something] may be harmed?

Stardock's sites/forums are free to ALL, without fear nor favour [only limitation is to 13+ [COPPA]].  To attempt to exclude some members for any 'reason' IS against "Official Policy".

The forums are for the enjoyment of all, not merely some.

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June 20, 2012 8:50:30 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

An example....

Re ALIEN .... "only Ripley survived" [and the cat] is a spoiler.

"at least they didn't all die" isn't. [as much]

In this case it's not going to be an issue either way as the film is older than most of the people reading this thread. [33 years].

In the case of Prometheus ... it's been released a few weeks.  MOST people will not have seen it yet.

If it's SO IMPORTANT to someone that they MUST reveal details then it's reasonable to expect it will STILL be so important to them 12 months from now....when it may be fair to assume anyone likely to be wanting to see it - has.

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June 20, 2012 9:17:56 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

I find this thread really amusing considering Stardock specifically added a spoiler tag so people could openly discuss the content of a movie, show, etc. Anyone stupid enough to read the spoiler deserves to be disappointed.

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June 20, 2012 9:37:01 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,
The forums are for the enjoyment of all, not merely some.

Correct. That 'spoiler' crap is simply obnoxious, rude behavior. And spare me the 'coy' crap as well. Enough is enough.

 

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June 20, 2012 9:39:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Jafo,
In the case of Prometheus ... it's been released a few weeks. MOST people will not have seen it yet.

If it's SO IMPORTANT to someone that they MUST reveal details then it's reasonable to expect it will STILL be so important to them 12 months from now....when it may be fair to assume anyone likely to be wanting to see it - has.

In this case, it will need to be 12 months or thereabouts... or at least until it's released on DVD or Bluray... reason: because I do not go to cinemas anymore due to being arthritic pretty much everywhere and finding them rather uncomfortable places to view movies... eg, not enough leg room, hard seats [for me anyway], and people yakking/moving around when there's important/good bits on, etc, etc, etc.

Nah, I'd rather wait 'til I can bring Prometheus home on Bluray and play it in my own mini cinema... projector, big screen and comfy leather lounges with oodles of leg room so I'm not as stiff as a honeymoon cock... um, I mean stiff as a board when the movie's over.

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June 20, 2012 9:50:18 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Now that's a spoiler!

And yeah...movie spoilers suck!

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June 20, 2012 10:23:03 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Correct. That 'spoiler' crap is simply obnoxious, rude behavior. And spare me the 'coy' crap as well. Enough is enough.

spoilers have never really bothered me as I simply choose not to read threads about something I'm interested in seeing and have not seen yet. 

I may also have mixed some official position Jafo was stating as a moderator with what now simply appears to be his opinion on the matter. The forums do clearly show a support for having spoiler content, though I would hope people would be respectful of others and use the tag and warnings despite the arguments presented in the OP.

I've enjoyed conversations with like minded people in this forum around Walking Dead for example. 

Also as stated previously the forum is for the enjoyment of all. However, I doubt there is an expectation that we all enjoy the forum in the exact same way. This shows in the diversity of topics and people that visit these forums.

I do have some sympathy for a moderator that job entails reading things that might spoil the content but don't see this as a reason to limit discussion on topics like movies, games or books with others.

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June 20, 2012 10:37:15 PM from Elemental Forums Elemental Forums

Quoting Jafo,
In the case of Prometheus ... it's been released a few weeks.  MOST people will not have seen it yet.

And that's why I'm showing some restraint and haven't read the thread about that movie. Maybe you have to read everything posted here because that's your job, but no-one else is forced to read anything.

If it's SO IMPORTANT to someone that they MUST reveal details then it's reasonable to expect it will STILL be so important to them 12 months from now....when it may be fair to assume anyone likely to be wanting to see it - has.[/quote]

There's nothing reasonable about that. What do you expect people to do? Mark their calendar 12 months from the moment they think of something they want to talk about, just to remove the small chance they give away some detail about something you haven't seen yet?

Quoting Jafo,
The forums are for the enjoyment of all, not merely some.
Except people who want to talk about things like plot details apparently..

[quote who="DrJBHL" reply="19" id="3178745"]That 'spoiler' crap is simply obnoxious, rude behavior. And spare me the 'coy' crap as well. Enough is enough.

You act as if all we do is going around and finding threads about works of fiction and posting plot details just for the fun of posting them and ruining other people's enjoyment. Perhaps we just want to talk about said plot points with others who have also seen or read it. Most of the time we even warn people that plot details are following, so you should stop reading if you don't want to know yet. Sometimes we even use the spoiler tags, which must be here for a reason as ZombiesRus5 pointed out.

What I find obnoxious is people telling me I can and can't talk about.

Edit: That, and the quotes not working propperly from time to time

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June 20, 2012 10:45:36 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire Forums Sins of a Solar Empire Forums

Why else look in the movie thread if not to discuss the movies plot.

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June 20, 2012 10:59:00 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Satrhan,
You act as if all we do is going around and finding threads about works of fiction and posting plot details just for the fun of posting them and ruining other people's enjoyment. Perhaps we just want to talk about said plot points with others who have also seen or read it. Most of the time we even warn people that plot details are following, so you should stop reading if you don't want to know yet. Sometimes we even use the spoiler tags, which must be here for a reason as ZombiesRus5 pointed out.

If that's the case you can always create a SPECIFIC thread about 'whatever' with a spoiler "warning" in the title, rather than divert a thread authored by someone else about a different topic.  That way there's a better chance no-one's enjoyment of a movie/book/show will be ruined whilst in said different topic.

As to whether you intentionally go "around finding threads" all that is apparent is the result.  The motivation is not.

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June 20, 2012 11:00:49 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I haven't seen Prometheus yet, going this Saturday. It was a movie I was always going to see ... and because of that, I didn't look at the Theory of the Prometheus Movie post. Wouldn't have a clue what happens, might check the post out after the weekend

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