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[.85 potential bug- severe] Archery and autoresolve

February 23, 2012 5:19:08 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

Noticing that archers are losing hard in autobattle in battles that they should win easily.  I'm wondering if there is some sort of calculation bug.

 

Irane+ 3 archers at full health shouldn't lose to 1 common bandit and one dog.

 

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Reply #1 February 23, 2012 5:23:15 PM
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IS HOW YOU SOLVE KITING!

 

 

 

 

jk

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Reply #2 February 23, 2012 5:26:50 PM
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Tested this out a bit, I can confirm: archery attacks do 0 damage in autocombat.

 

They were doing damage just fine in tactical combat.

 

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Reply #3 February 23, 2012 5:29:12 PM
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Thats a pretty large bug.

(probably what they were tweaking with earlier today, before they decided to launch as-is)

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Reply #4 February 23, 2012 5:36:16 PM
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Maybe they can make a quick .86 build to fix this?

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Reply #5 February 23, 2012 6:22:10 PM
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More testing- it is not just shortbows, the ignys longbow also has this problem.

 

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Reply #6 February 23, 2012 6:43:47 PM
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We'll check it out.

We are planning on doing a 0.86 maint update tomorrow anyway to get in all the fixes and tweaks that we wanted to get in today but didn't make the deadline.

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Reply #7 February 23, 2012 7:50:36 PM
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nice to know that your looking into this and might have it fixed by tomorrow

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Reply #8 February 23, 2012 8:14:35 PM
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I've got some AI tweaks that didn't make it in (tactical combat stuff).  I'll ask Charles to look at the auto resolve to see what changed there. I'm not familiar with that code so I can't say why it's doing what it's doing.

The other thing I'm anxious to get in is the XP distribution update which favors more XP when there's more units (0.85 doesn't really reward facing a large army but rather looks at how powerful the top units is).

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Reply #9 February 23, 2012 8:18:52 PM
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For the record ... a Darkling Archer attacked my 0 attack pioneer.

... Pioneer won.

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Reply #10 February 23, 2012 8:20:14 PM
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Quoting Frogboy,
reply 8
I've got some AI tweaks that didn't make it in (tactical combat stuff).  I'll ask Charles to look at the auto resolve to see what changed there. I'm not familiar with that code so I can't say why it's doing what it's doing.

The other thing I'm anxious to get in is the XP distribution update which favors more XP when there's more units (0.85 doesn't really reward facing a large army but rather looks at how powerful the top units is).

Ahh so this is why I got 1 experience for killing 3 wolves!

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Reply #11 February 23, 2012 8:25:04 PM
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Yea ... and getting only 3 experience each time I kill lord Markin is a bit of a let down.

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Reply #12 February 24, 2012 7:21:49 AM
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Just +1 to this bug.  Had 2 stacks of archers, each of which could 1-shot the enemy stacks, lose to a bear and a cub.

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