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WindowBlinds application compatibility issues

By on January 17, 2012 4:05:38 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Neil Banfield

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It has come to our attention that some people may have had issues with some apps and WB and opted not to tell anyone about it.

Obviously we would like to know about them so we can resolve the issues.

If you have had an issue with an app caused by being skinned by WB, please post the following information in this thread:

1) The app name

2) The OS you are using

3) The theme you are using

4) The problem you have encountered

5) If you did report it to support a ticket number would help.

If the issue is visual a screenshot would help and where the app is more unusual we would like to know where we may be able to obtain a trial or demo version of it from.

Please note that we are not looking for bug reports on making skins here.  This is specifically for application issues.

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January 24, 2012 5:40:45 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Starcandy,
Using a trial version of Photoshop CS5 and I seem to have problems with dropdown menus not displaying anything. It can be one or two menus, and it seems to be completely random as to which it will be.

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I've tried to resolve the issue by setting per application and telling it not skin CS5 at all. That makes the document frame appear but where the document is supposed to be is blank. If I move/reposition the frame it makes the document appear... until I stop moving it, then the document area vanishes again, making it impossible for me to work on anything.

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The only solution I've found is to set CS5 to use a different skin. It doesn't actually do that, but it makes everything work, albeit in a Windows classic skin (even though it was supposed to be Aero Metals).

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this as I know there are people here that use CS5.

 

App name: Photoshop CS5 (64 bit)

OS: Windows 7 64 bit

Theme: Any, so far

 

I too experience this. It's only occasionally but can be very annoying.

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January 24, 2012 6:29:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Never experienced this with CS5 x64. Some skins can make it difficult to use.

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January 24, 2012 7:04:02 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting DrJBHL,
Never experienced this with CS5 x64. Some skins can make it difficult to use.

Difficult to use how?

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January 24, 2012 7:21:19 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Having looked online, the blank menu may not be us : http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/increasing_memory_usage_in_preferences_causes_file_menu_to_be_blank

I wonder if WB is simply increasing the memory usage slightly and so making this happen slightly more often.  Seems to be linked to OpenGL usage too.

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January 24, 2012 7:35:17 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Usually a matter of backgrounds on the menus/submenus and font color/shade being too dark/contrast issues. For that reason, I've simply 'excepted' Ps from being skinned by WB... not worth the hassle each time.

Perhaps if SKS were more 'self explanatory' about which settings to change and where to find them, I'd mod the skins to my own 'standard use' specs and do it for the skins I enjoy using. I'm probably going about it all 'incorrectly'. Not an accusation against any specific skin nor program...just wishing SKS were 'easier' or perhaps more 'user friendly'... again, perhaps not phrasing it as well as should be able to. Maybe some 'technical literature' would help... or some practical "how to's"? Sorry, I might be rambling.

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January 24, 2012 8:09:58 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

PS menus are not skinned by WB as they are ownerdrawn so excluding it should have no impact on the colours used.

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January 26, 2012 7:40:06 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

One more thing on the Yahoo messenger issue.

When a link is clicked in a Yahoo Messenger window, IE9 opens skinned in classic. Is this a Yahoo bug, or a WB bug?

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January 26, 2012 7:55:55 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting RedneckDude,
One more thing on the Yahoo messenger issue.

When a link is clicked in a Yahoo Messenger window, IE9 opens skinned in classic. Is this a Yahoo bug, or a WB bug?

To elaborate further, if IE is launched from within a message window, it is skinned in classic if IE isn't already open.

If a file is attached to YM with the paperclip at the bottom, the window opens in classic. Any notifications you get down by the sytray is again, classic.

Is there any way to force WB to skin these?

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January 26, 2012 8:42:20 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Neil Banfield,
Having looked online, the blank menu may not be us

Tried setting OpenGL to basic, disabling it altogether and reducing memory usage to 50%. No cigar! CS5 32 bit still playing nicely with WB, though it does take longer to open large files (present WIP is over 400 layers now and takes about 15 seconds to open in 32 bit, but maybe half that with 64 bit). I'm still going to upgrade.

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January 26, 2012 11:09:22 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

1) The app name: Random high CPU usage apps ie... Ofice 2010, Photoshop etc...

2) The OS you are using: Windows 7 SP1 x65

3) The theme you are using Random themes setup

4) The problem you have encountered: Random application flicker and both the taskbar and entire screen drops about 1/4 inch for about 4-5 seconds sometimes it's one sometimes it's both and it's very random.

5) If you did report it to support a ticket number would help.

Never reported it but posted something here and no one responded.

This was with v.7.30.310 (7.30.00 on the store)

I am going to try the betas as they come out. Will probably install 7.30a tomorrow.

Will post my findings.

Joe

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January 26, 2012 11:18:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting joelore,
1) The app name: Random high CPU usage apps ie... Ofice 2010, Photoshop etc...
2) The OS you are using: Windows 7 SP1 x65

 

1) Windowblinds would not cause this.

2) That's a bit too much.

3) OK

4) Caused by high CPU usage, not by WB.

 

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January 30, 2012 7:50:07 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I'm having problems with the new 7.31 (build 317 x64) on Windows 7. Things work OK for a while after a fresh system start, then everything just goes crazy. Firefox and Opera are especially susceptible to problems, with Windowblinds drawing the title bars and caption buttons all funky when maximized, and not at all when in windowed mode. WB also stops removing window boarders when some apps are made full-screen.

Eventually the problems migrate to the taskbar and other areas.

I've experienced these problems with both 7zone and VXP 2010, the only two skins I use. Switching to Aero or some other theme then back to one of these helps for a while, but it seems the problems crop up again after some time.

Rolling back to the latest official release seems to help, but I'm so very happy that the Directory Opus blacklisting has been removed in the beta, that I hate to roll back

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January 31, 2012 8:00:18 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

garbanz0: It sounds like something is leaking GDI resources, but tests here are not showing any problems.

Without more information on what is being leaked and by what we have nothing to go on.  The taskmanager processes tab should be able to show you resource usage of each of the apps (use the view menu to select the columns required, GDI and USER Objects would be useful).  Given the symptoms I would imagine some app is using 7000+.  Knowing what that app is would be very useful.

Once you have found it, the GDIView tool from here : http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/gdi_handles.html should let you see what type of handle the process has.  This information would greatly help us.

Is anyone else having similar problems?

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February 1, 2012 6:49:40 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

OK so it happened just now. I checked task manager, the process using the most GDI Objects and User Objects was AirVideoServer, which I use to stream video to my iPad. This was followed by explorer.exe. Neither was using more than 1000 combined objects.

I looked it up in GDIView but I'm not quite sure what info you need from there. The column with the most objects is labeled DC. If this isn't helpful let me know and I'll do what I can to help

 

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OK, my computer is a mess. I just booted, and my taskbar wasn't skinned. I re-applied the WB and all was well, so I restarted again - taskbar not skinned. Open firefox - title bar all messed up.

All these problems started last week when I formatted my system drive and installed Windows 7 Enterprise X64. I just started a new job and I got a MAK license from work, so I thought I'd try it out. I think maybe I'll go back to Home Premium...

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February 7, 2012 12:28:11 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

 

Issue 1:

1)cisco webex

2)Windows 7

3)All of them, including just basic windows Aero

4)If i have windows blinds running, when i maximize a window i do not have access to the share window button

5)I did not report it because it is a nuisance, but something i can work around.

Issue 2:

1)Display Fusion

2)Windows 7

3)All of them

4)An extension of the previous problem. with windows blinds running in a webex meeting, i dont have the switch screens button. Without windows blinds i have both buttons.

5)I did not report it because it is a nuisance, but one i can work around.

 

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February 15, 2012 7:52:27 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I just received a new workstation at the office with W7 & MS-Office 2010. I am not sure if this is an application problem or if I need to implement a specific configuration to make it work:

1) MS-Office 2010 suite; any product..Word, Outlook, Excel, etc.

2) WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 7.3 (build 310 - Windows 7 Edition) - 64 bit OS

WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC
WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC
(Generic PnP Monitor) 1 is attached to ATI Radeon HD 3470 (Microsoft Corporation WDDM 1.1)
(Generic PnP Monitor) 2 is attached to ATI Radeon HD 3470 (Microsoft Corporation WDDM 1.1)
(USB Adapter) 3 is attached to ATI Radeon HD 3470 (Microsoft Corporation WDDM 1.1)

Wblind.dll      2011/10/17 11:18:20
Wblind64.dll      2011/10/17 11:18:48
Wbsrv.dll      2011/09/26 15:10:56
SevenConfig.exe      2011/10/13 17:33:52
Wbload.exe      2010/10/20 16:08:35
Wbhelp.dll      2011/10/04 10:01:37
Tray.dll           2009/10/23 20:12:19
Wbload.dll           2010/06/07 15:59:25
Screen.exe      2010/06/07 15:59:43

3) All themes

4) None of the MS-Office applications skin.

 Thanks

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February 15, 2012 8:01:07 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Could you post a screenshot showing what you mean.

I am wondering if that vga usb adapter is turning the DWM off in which case office would revert to its own frames.

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February 15, 2012 10:24:22 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Below is a snapshot of MS-Word while using vStyler's Frontier skin. The results are the same, regardless of which of the 3 monitors that MS-Office application is on. Thanks

MS-Word snapshot

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February 15, 2012 11:07:03 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I have found that I'm having some funtionality issues with one of my most used graphic software program called IcoFX.

It seems that a few of the windowblinds that I have used, don't let me expand the work palette in several directions. I do not know if this is a problem specific to windowblinds in conflict with this software or if it is just the way a few of the blinds were put together. Below is a screen showing the areas of inoperability as far as stretching the work palette. I've had to work around it by simply changing to a different blind that I know it will work with, but this is frustrating because I use it a lot and I can't enjoy some of my favorite blinds because they simply won't work with this software. The blind in the screen shot is the latest called Dragon Master and it also does not work with this software. I would love to get this problem resolved, as it has been a major area of frustration for me. Thank-you.   -- Ace --

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Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 5.9 Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 6.8

WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 7.31 (build 316 - Windows 7 Edition) - 64 bit OS

WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC (HP w2207 Wide LCD Monitor) 1 is attached to NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT

Wblind.dll      2012/01/25 10:25:20 Wblind64.dll      2012/01/25 10:25:07 Wbsrv.dll      2011/09/26 14:10:56 SevenConfig.exe      2012/01/14 15:21:58 Wbload.exe      2010/10/20 15:08:35 Wbhelp.dll      2011/10/04 09:01:37 Tray.dll           2009/10/23 19:12:19 Wbload.dll           2010/06/07 14:59:25 Screen.exe      2010/06/07 14:59:43

 

IcoFX Screenshot

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February 16, 2012 7:15:05 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Omegatec,
Below is a snapshot of MS-Word while using vStyler's Frontier skin. The results are the same, regardless of which of the 3 monitors that MS-Office application is on. Thanks

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So what is your issue then? Microsoft Office does not get skinned by Windowblinds, it has its own skin and Windwoblinds cannot skin it.

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February 16, 2012 7:16:03 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting AceMatrix,
I have found that I'm having some funtionality issues with one of my most used graphic software program called IcoFX.

It seems that a few of the windowblinds that I have used, don't let me expand the work palette in several directions. I do not know if this is a problem specific to windowblinds in conflict with this software or if it is just the way a few of the blinds were put together. Below is a screen showing the areas of inoperability as far as stretching the work palette. I've had to work around it by simply changing to a different blind that I know it will work with, but this is frustrating because I use it a lot and I can't enjoy some of my favorite blinds because they simply won't work with this software. The blind in the screen shot is the latest called Dragon Master and it also does not work with this software. I would love to get this problem resolved, as it has been a major area of frustration for me. Thank-you.   -- Ace --

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Your computer has a Windows Experience Index base score of 5.9 Your Windows Graphics Experience score is 6.8

WindowBlinds version : WindowBlinds 7.31 (build 316 - Windows 7 Edition) - 64 bit OS

WindowBlinds is installed correctly on this PC WindowBlinds appears to be activated on this PC (HP w2207 Wide LCD Monitor) 1 is attached to NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT

Wblind.dll      2012/01/25 10:25:20 Wblind64.dll      2012/01/25 10:25:07 Wbsrv.dll      2011/09/26 14:10:56 SevenConfig.exe      2012/01/14 15:21:58 Wbload.exe      2010/10/20 15:08:35 Wbhelp.dll      2011/10/04 09:01:37 Tray.dll           2009/10/23 19:12:19 Wbload.dll           2010/06/07 14:59:25 Screen.exe      2010/06/07 14:59:43

 

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If it is only certain skins causing your issue, then you need to contact the skins author as it would not be Windowblinds causing the issue.

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February 16, 2012 8:10:36 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

O.K. I will do that, thank-you so much LightStar for your feedback ,I very much appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.       -- Ace ---

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February 16, 2012 8:54:55 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting LightStar,
Quoting Omegatec, reply 68Below is a snapshot of MS-Word while using vStyler's Frontier skin. The results are the same, regardless of which of the 3 monitors that MS-Office application is on. Thanks

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So what is your issue then? Microsoft Office does not get skinned by Windowblinds, it has its own skin and Windwoblinds cannot skin it.

The image does not seem to be working right now, but I should correct something here.

Office 2007/2010 WILL skin the titlebars of the main office window if the DWM is enabled.  This should be enabled on all modern machines unless an app is running that is incompatible or the video hardware is old.

The client controls inside the main office window will use the office skin as thats how the app works, but any child windows will again skin with the WB skin.

On Windows XP it will always use the Office skin on the main window as there is no DWM.

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February 16, 2012 9:18:22 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Did not know that Neil, thanks! Next question... what the heck is DWM and how do you enable it?

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February 16, 2012 9:20:27 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting LightStar,
Did not know that Neil, thanks! Next question... what the heck is DWM and how do you enable it?

The DWM is the Desktop Window Manager.  I.e. the thing that provides glass on Windows Vista / 7.

Without that functional you would get no animations on opening / closing / min / restore windows plus no thumbnails when you mouseover the taskbar buttons.

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