I just got home, sounds like it was pretty much over but I'll have a look. 

yep i think so, i'm not sure though since i have both 1.022 and 1.03 versions installed

yeah - install uberfix 1.03 mcshane - we will be using it in the finals.  Its quite stable - the only diff you will notice is that you can't see your opponents gold.  It does a few more things than that, but nothing over the top and no balance changes. 

alright panel - let's discuss this... what are we going to do about darks/jonas team?

Options are

1. side with my ruling that the game was won by jona's team
2. disagree with my ruling and say the game was too close and must be replayed

I think they only played 1 game last night and the deadline is now past - I know jona busted his ass to try to get a game going, but all they came up with was 1 temporarily contested game.  Is that adequate for placing in the number 4 slot?  Do we wait and let them finish their series off?  I believe they need to get a total of 3 games in, but I'm not 100% sure.  Do we care/not care, etc.

I am not in panel but i can't play the tourney games until the weekend, so i feel like they should have the time until the weekend anyways. Meanwhile I am off on 18th of December, so would be great to do some tourney matches this weekend or during the week.

I've watched the replay now and it definitely ends quite a bit after Iz_ dropped, and he did BEFORE we got the portal and the double kill. How can you tell he dropped exactly at 37:30 McShane? I can't remember well but yeah it was definitely around that time, the UB starts acting like a the dumb AI it is by then.

IMHO the game looked better for "us" than them when Iz_ dropped, but it wasn't over by any means. If i had a vote in the decision making panel (which i lost not sure how ), i'd say there's no reason not to give time until weekend for 3 games to be played between the 2 teams. But i'm just a Guest Star in rawrs-jona team, so i don't really care tbh .

if the dc was at 37min, then I agree, the game is contested... I must not have seen him drop then.  I figured they all conceeded as soon as he dc'd and I didn't catch the player has left the game message.

heh - I saw a few WTF is ub doing moments around then.  Just figured he must be... not so good.  Glad to see that was ai then!

So, based on McShane's vote and mine, this match is getting thrown out as at the time of the dc, the winner was not guaranteed.  Thanks for reviewing the replay as well, nom/mcshane.

I think we should give them until Friday night to get their 3 games in. I really want to make it as clear as possible that you guys should make EVERY effort to get in at least 1 more of your games tonight. Treat this as something that you need to do asap and don't just waste tonight and hope you get your games in on Friday.  I don't have any problem disqualifying anyone to make progress on this so we can wrap up the tourney.  Then we can start the finals on Saturday and wrap those up either this weekend or next week. 

edit - and further clarification - should we just make the jona/dark match the best 2 out of 3?  Technically, if they play 3 games and dark's team wins only 1 game and jona's team wins 2, the will both have 2 wins to their credit and be tied for 4th place.  I vote we just make it best 2 out of 3 to simply and not drag this out any further.  Need someone else on the panel to weigh in.

McShane - do you agree that we give them until midnight on Friday to get their 3 games in?  If you disagree, we'll just take a vote, but if you agree, then its settled.

And we can start finalizing the format for what we'll do in the finals for character selections, etc in the meantime. 

If the finals only include 3 teams, then we'll have each team play each team a total of 3 times.  The team with the most wins is in first place, and so on.  If the finals include 4 teams, then we'll stick with the original plan - team 1 v team 4.  team 2 v team 3.  Then the winners fight it out.  Games will be best 2 out of 3 in the finals. 

Any disagreements on that?  If not, then we just have to decide on the character selection rules and if we are willing to play on a different map. 

Right - but do you agree on the things I asked to vote on?  I'd like to get that set in stone so these guys know what's expected of them.

One way or the other, the finals are starting on or by saturday of this week and will likely be over and done with by Next Friday. 

I don't ****ing know at this point, just play the damn games lol.  We already had 3 votes saying they were disqualified if their series wasn't done by last night.  One convincing win is all I would need to see.  What's the set in stone date for you to play zen_gods team is the more pressing issue?

Well, either way on Friday it will be clear that if it is going to be 3 team finals or 4. Meanwhile let's decide how we are gonna do the finals regarding DG picks(i am referring to my proposal in rules thread). On top of it I am available all day this Sunday. If the rest of final 3 or 4 can have the time this Sunday, let's just play all our 6 matches on Sunday and wrap the tourney?

Iz's team is on now,  so whenever you get on whichever alt i can find we can play.

Im willing to play more games,  but I watched the replay.  Iz desyncs after we were chasing them to their portal,  we got a tower down,  reg got artifact shop and we still had hp flag.  This all would of happened anyway because iz had to go to crystal no matter what.  Rawwr was like 400g away from a bulwark after selling the replacement item at that pt,  iz's build wouldnt of stood a chance after that because he had so many expensive items his entire team was way off any artifacts.  We had HP flag and would of pushed straight  into the portal.  

Id like to play more games but i still think this one should be counted as a win,  we were 6mins away from a win b4 the desync.

Dragging or-chins post from the rules/reg thread over here for discussion:

Let's get with the talking about this.  Happy to hear from anyone in the final games for feedback, but the panel will have the final vote.

Other thing, I vote we dq both jona/dark teams if they don't have their 2 out of 3 games played by the end of the night.  Anyone second?