[question]CoreNameRuleset - Random name generator

I would like to try my luck modding the name generator. From what I have found so far there doesn't seem to be a whole lot I can do. A little insight into how the game uses the ruleset would be helpful. I don't want to just plug in random values and see what happens. Unless there are more xml files I am missing, the functionality seems to be hardcoded in. Is it possible to even mod the name generator effectively? Thx.

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We'd discussed this a little and Frogboy said he was interested. If you've not already checked that thread, it's at

https://forums.elementalgame.com/396274

Frogboy actually mentioned having an XML list of names and having the generator pull from that so we could do customized faction city names, etc. So you may want to wait before putting effort into this in case they change the naming mechanics.

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I'd like this question answered myself.

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Check out my comments here on how to get the files to work in game if you mod them.

https://forums.elementalgame.com/397243

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Here is the code I use for both. It does a decent job of more realistic names. Not perfect, but I see if I can adjust once we get python ability to get names with multiple words or dashes, etc.

Code: xml
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
<NameGeneratorRuleset InternalName="CoreNameRuleset">
 <DataChecksum NoParse="1">
  <Ignore>DisplayName</Ignore>
  <Translate>DisplayName,TerrainName</Translate>
 </DataChecksum>
 <MinimumLetterLength>4</MinimumLetterLength>
 <MaximumLetterLength>8</MaximumLetterLength>
    <DefaultGenerationString>{S}</DefaultGenerationString>
 <!-- Name Generation Rules (Change as desired). -->
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>S</Variable>
  <Replace>{Vowel}{A}</Replace>
  <Probability>0.3</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>S</Variable>
  <Replace>{Consonant}{B}</Replace>
  <Probability>0.4</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>S</Variable>
  <Replace>{DoubleSConsonant}{B}</Replace>
  <Probability>0.3</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>A</Variable>
  <Replace>{Consonant}{B}</Replace>
  <Probability>0.80</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>A</Variable>
    <Replace>{DoubleConsonant}{B}</Replace>
    <Probability>0.20</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>B</Variable>
  <Replace>{Vowel}{A}</Replace>
  <Probability>0.95</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>B</Variable>
    <Replace>{DoubleVowel}{A}</Replace>
    <Probability>0.05</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
 
 <!-- Letter Probabilities. -->
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Vowel</Variable>
  <Replace>a</Replace>
  <Probability>0.293425</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>b</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0246857</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>c</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0269714</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>d</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0525714</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Vowel</Variable>
  <Replace>e</Replace>
  <Probability>0.279922</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>f</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0162286</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>g</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0345143</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>h</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0630857</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Vowel</Variable>
  <Replace>i</Replace>
  <Probability>0.235065</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>j</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0130286</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>k</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0276571</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>l</Replace>
  <Probability>0.101943</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>m</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0541714</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>n</Replace>
  <Probability>0.148114</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Vowel</Variable>
  <Replace>o</Replace>
  <Probability>0.129021</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>p</Replace>
  <Probability>0.00845714</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>q</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0032</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>r</Replace>
  <Probability>0.166171</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>s</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0802286</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>t</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0624</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Vowel</Variable>
  <Replace>u</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0625663</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>v</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0278857</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>w</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0116571</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>x</Replace>
  <Probability>0.00868571</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>y</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0521143</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
 <ProductionRule>
  <Variable>Consonant</Variable>
  <Replace>z</Replace>
  <Probability>0.0162286</Probability>
 </ProductionRule>
  <!-- double vowels -->
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>ea</Replace>
    <Probability>0.19</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>oo</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>ia</Replace>
    <Probability>0.19</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>ue</Replace>
    <Probability>0.19</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>uu</Replace>
    <Probability>0.01</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>ie</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>ae</Replace>
    <Probability>0.19</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>ii</Replace>
    <Probability>0.01</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>aa</Replace>
    <Probability>0.01</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleVowel</Variable>
    <Replace>eau</Replace>
    <Probability>0.01</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <!-- double start consonants -->
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>st</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>tr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>th</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>ch</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>pr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>sk</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>br</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>cr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>dr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleSConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>bl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.1</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  
  <!-- double consonants -->
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>st</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>tr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>th</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>ch</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>pr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>sk</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>br</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>cr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>dr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>bl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>ss</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>wr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>sl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>mb</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>sh</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>pl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>chr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>spr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>thr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>nd</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rd</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rth</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>gh</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>cl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>spl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>fr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>nk</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rk</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>kr</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rn</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>ck</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>lk</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rb</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rm</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>gn</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>br</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rv</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>ld</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>xt</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>ll</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>pp</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>sn</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>lb</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rt</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>bb</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>mm</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>tt</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>kk</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>dd</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>ph</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>lt</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>skl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rp</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>rst</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>mbl</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>s-t</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>m-r</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>x-w</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
  <ProductionRule>
    <Variable>DoubleConsonant</Variable>
    <Replace>y-c</Replace>
    <Probability>0.02</Probability>
  </ProductionRule>
 
</NameGeneratorRuleset>

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That is way cooler than just having the game pull a random pre-generated list from a database (the only random name generator I was familiar with before).

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can nayone recommend a decent on line, fan based xml tutorial (-ie., not a 'you but buy' deal). The web search results are bewildering. Anyone point me in the right direction, please?

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I dont know why people complain about the name generator in the game, "Mauutuigarbiitarioloo" is a perfectly good name for a boy, girl, city, well shit, anything really. I'm stealing it to use in real life.

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