Right now it is Sins: Diplomacy and Demigod. 

In response to hedgies post:

First off Osmium Shift was kalel making a typo. It was supposed to be Osmium Shit.  Now we've all had Osmium shit's before after eating white castle/krystal/taco bell/jack in the box etc. 

And Hedgie, as far as paint and i already in a clan, it's a non-competitve FPS clan and not a demigod clan.  It's a bunch of us old farts that just like to play various games together. If you get BC2 there is no doubt you will play with some of those guys.

Let's face it, the worst thing about seeing a game die out is not that game itself, but the friends you made playing it.  You young whipper snappers will understand one day.

So one recommendation for CP should be the ability to play multiple games lol 

In regards to tryouts & ranks etc for a clan. 

I will tell you that this just causes problems and political issues a la Survivor/ big brother etc. (FYI i hate those shows lol)

People will try to gain higher ranks and be slighted when they are denied.  IF the clan is competitive (ie. leagues & ladders) having a primary team and secondary etc. usally works out well. Also having game specific sub divisions works out ok.

In my experience (which is extensive BTW) Clans are best as either a dictatorship or when they are mostly leaderless (just a few guys who are the organizers)  This works for small clans, ie. under 50 people.  

(Getting more than 150 people in a guild etc..... well lets just say i never ever want to deal with those headaches again)

Having a person or two able to admin when necessary is fine as well. The bottom line is that the best way it works is if eveyone who is in the clan has essentially an equal voice.  This provides long term relationship growth that will span multiple games and years.  This is similar to the way Valve runs their company.

Invites are handled by voting amongst the clan.  If a person wants to join, they ask a friend of theirs who is a member in the clan.  When the member thinks that they would be a good addition and the invitee has played with the clan long enough then the member requests a clan vote.  My recommendation is that a high percentage of the clan has to vote yes for someone to join, (it 75% etc.) 

And Synn, that is why CP isn't some uber premade ultra l337 stomp all pugs all the time clan.  We're just trying to find a nice balance between public and keeping people happy.

Pacov, remind me tonight in regards to a website.  

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Indeed.  I ran things a little like a dictatorship (going public, for instance - you might remember me welcoming jon and paint to our little dg clan back in the day and that wasn't exactly considered cool by some for a little bit.  ).  But anyway, the dictatorship side of things can pleasantly die as far as I'm concerned.  Equal vote held by the core seems to be the way to go.  I don't much care for the politicing or new offshoots of the clan popping up overnight without even having someone so much as send me a pm.  So, it, not being a dictatorship, then, I'll put out there that I think the extra vent channel (osmium) is unnecessary.  If its a matter of control or some power struggle, I don't have any issue with getting admin rights for the core as long as we all agree to a basic set of rules for each other. But that said, I think I have the private channels adequately locked down just for the core's usage.

Sounds good to me. 

I also agree.

Call me a jerk and tell me to get out of here if you want pacov lol but for my sanity I think you guys need to get a little more serious.  This can be done simply by establishing who your actual competitive members are that you are comfortable with representing the clan vs other clans.  I think you've mentioned already that these members are: Kalel, Trousersnake, Abuggeredhedgie, Jongalt, and you, is that the final fab 5?  There's no reason to completely get rid of all your other vent friends but it would be nice to know who is up for a serious game occasionally from your group and who we need to balance with when they join GM games.

The public vent thing can be depressing with some of the people who join when you're trying to play competitive games.  I'm having some of the same issues it seems your more competitive members are having.  It's really wearing me down playing only vs other GM members, since the other clans don't seem to be on much anymore and always having someone on my team who I don't trust at all but play with them just because they're on vent.  It's more frustrating then a pug game even where no one knows anyone elses skill.

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Let's face it, the worst thing about seeing a game die out is not that game itself, but the friends you made playing it. You young whipper snappers will understand one day.
.[/quoteI know this all too well T.T

Even if we haven't adopted a clan moniker, you can get competitive games out of me, kalel, trouser, hedgie, jon, and paint.  IMO, the most competitive match up you will get out of is probably me, trouser, kalel, and hedgie. In 3v3, some combo of those 6.  It's difficult for me to qualify the skill level of the other players that often play in clan pacov as I haven't been able to play with many of them in smaller games to guage their skill level.  No one really stands out to me as bad.  Levi's the newest to play with us and he's got some learning to do, but will be a decent player. 

hehe.  You guys did choose to recruit alot of the top players... so your option is generally to either fight weaker players (if they don't abandon your lobbies), fight against each other, or try to stir things up with us   You do have a great clan strategy if you primarily want to fight against each other though...

Oh - and as silly as it sounds, me and quite a few folks from my work are going to start playing some starcraft/broodwar again.  If you are interested in joining us and don't have the game, you can buy it for $3.50... seriously.  Here's the link: LINKY!   That site sells CD keys for blizzard games.  Legit CD keys that work on battle.net.  A few of my buds bought keys here today and I've bought from them in the past.  Basically, all you need is the CD key you buy from them.  Then, go to battle.net (owned by blizzard) and register your game.  It will give you access to download them directly. 

Lol omg, I just watched the replay for the game I played last night.  I literally don't even remember it, I finished midterms at 4 pm yesterday and started drinking with one of my roommates at 5:30.  Hahaha I'm told that I passed out at the computer.  I'm sorry GM! And Pacov!  Could've been a nice game.

Haha yea.  I remember my first couple games but my roommate kept bringing me drinks while I was waiting in lobby and eventually Jack Daniels smited me.  Midterms went great thanks.  I'll keep an eye out for you guys this weekend to hopefully get some more clan games in.