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Can Stardock products be used only for 1 user and not by another on shared computer

By on September 17, 2009 9:31:40 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

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Sorry, I don't know what happened!!!All my purchased Stardock products are on my personal laptop only. My son is now gone off to school and has a new desktop computer and I plan on taking over his old one. I'd like to put my software on his old desktop and I know that's allowed as long as only one system is used at a time. I plan on keeping his stuff on it so that he can play his games and go on the internet when he's visiting. I have two questions... Can I have Windowblinds and other programs installed and only used and seen by one user (me) and when he signs in to his, he only sees Windows XP and none of the customization that I use? And if he's visiting and using the desktop signed into his while I'm on my laptop, is that still kosher as far as licensing goes?

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September 17, 2009 9:35:10 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I'm sorry, I don't know how my post got copied over and over again! Is there somebody there that can delete all the other ones, please?

Thank you!

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September 17, 2009 9:45:04 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I do not see any issue with what you are planning on doing as you have discussed above.

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September 17, 2009 10:07:43 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

That's great to hear, thank you Hankers! So to clarify, that means that I can install my stardock software for my use only and when he signs in, he'll just see the Windows XP setup?

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September 18, 2009 2:48:41 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

crap

i knew when my browser hung, it was gonna double post

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September 18, 2009 2:52:45 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

when he signs in, he'll just see the Windows XP setup?

if all is unloaded on his side and until he clicks: start > all programs > stardock

 

on the other hand since it would only be while visiting from school, seems it would no different than a guest account - which should be okay cuz if he decides he likes it he can bug you to buy him his own subscription

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September 18, 2009 7:04:40 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Thanks Bichur!

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September 18, 2009 12:24:58 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I'm confused by this question. Are you asking about software on a single computer but with multiple accounts on it? If so, why would this be a problem? Isn't the software suppose to work on the computer it's on, regardless of the accounts on it? Or is it possible to force someone to use a software on an account basis? How can the licensing be limited by the accounts on a PC? It's not like the accounts are making it more then one PC, you can't have more than one account open at the same time anyways, can you? I find this a rather unusual question which is why I am confused.

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September 18, 2009 1:12:28 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Sorry to confuse, I was trying to keep it short...

I'm into customizing my desktop and I use a laptop which has the software on it.

My son is not into customization - only gaming. He is away at school now with a new desktop (and laptop) and his old desktop is home with me.

I plan on taking over his desktop and will put the software on it which I know is okay for licensing because only one person would be using a machine at a time.

But my son will be coming home some weekends and holidays and I wanted to know if it was breaking the license agreement because both systems would be on at the same time (that was one question).

My other question was if I could install the software on the desktop but only for one user (me) and for it not to be available or set up for other users (my son). I want him to be able to click on his name and have it look exactly the way he left it (ugly XP with hundreds of icons on the desktop -ugh - but that's the way he likes it!). And I want to click on my name and have it set up with windowblinds, cursorfx, objectdock, etc.

Hope that is clearer.

 

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September 18, 2009 2:03:20 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

OK, I got it this time. Thank you for explaining. however I don't see why this would be an issue. If Stardock allows the software to be on more than one PC so long as they are yours, why would induvidual accounts on the PC's themselves be a problem and why would it be a big deal for both to be in use at the same time. I have it on both my PCs which we use all the time at the same time. If this is wrong i would like to know although I can't see how it would be. Not like I am pirating the software with other people outside my house.

I like this question of yours and would like more infor from Stardock on this.

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September 18, 2009 2:34:43 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Taken from Stardock's FAQ's -

Q:  I have a laptop and a desktop. Can I install the software on multiple machines?

A:  Yes, to a point. Only 1 copy of the product can be used at once per license. But if you want to have it on both home and work or install it on the road that is not only allowed but recommended. As long as only one copy is actively in use (someone sitting at the computer) at any one time, you are covered.

Those are the (official) terms of service (TOS) for Stardock's products.

As I responded earlier, I don't see any issue with what karmat is suggesting he will be doing.

Stardock FAQ'S

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September 18, 2009 3:11:55 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Thanks Hankers. Maybe I should read the rules more thoroughly next time. I have been breaking them all this time without even knowing it. I hope Stardock does not take any action against me for this.

I am curious though. Why such a rule? It would be kinda difficult to keep one computer off while using another one when the point of having more than one was to be able to use more than one at the same time. Forgive my ignorance and my questioning of the rules. I am simply very curious on how do these rules come about. Helps to avoid breaking them in the future. or maybe I am understanding all this wrong.

When you say one copy, do you mean, say Windowblinds, Objectdock or IP running or do you mean Impulse? Thanks again for explaining. One can never learn if one does not ask what one does not understand fully.

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September 18, 2009 3:40:50 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

When you say one copy, do you mean, say Windowblinds, Objectdock or IP running or do you mean Impulse?

 

Windowblinds, Objectdock or IP or DesktopX, etc

 

 

Why such a rule?

 

Alot of software come with a '1 computer only' license - stardock understands more than a few have at least a pc and a lap (if they didn't get it they wouldn't have come up with multiplicity )

It's a way of saying, it's okay to install on both - and a way of saying but you can't install it on every computer you might happpen to sit down and use during the course of a month

 

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September 18, 2009 3:43:22 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The software (ObjectDesktop programs) is an individual license that is sold to (you guessed it ... an individual).  The idea allowing an installation on a laptop and a desktop is for that individual that has both to be able to use the product(s) when he/she is not at the main desktop (such as when at work or on vacation, etc.)

Many software companies have what they call "Family Pack" where they sell a number of licenses at a reduced rate. This allows several family members to install the software on several computers and have them in use at the same time.  These licenses are limited to the number purchased in the 'Family Pack'.

Impulse is a free product and is not governed by the same TOS.

I don't believe Stardock will take any action against you but if you hear a knock at your door .......  

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September 18, 2009 3:49:22 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

The wording actually states "not typically in use at the same time".  The provision is there so that you don't have to buy multiple copies if you have multiple machines.  If you were to install on 3 machines that are yours it would still be fine as far as we're concerned (although hitting the activation limits may be easier if you reinstall a lot).  The provision it to prevent you from buying a copy for you and your friend, and sharing the license.

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September 18, 2009 5:54:26 PM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Thanks for clarification of the rules, appreciate it. So, do I just install Impulse on the desktop and install my registered software that way?

Does anybody have an answer to this one?

My other question was if I could install the software on the desktop but only for one user (me) and for it not to be available or set up for other users (my son). I want him to be able to click on his name and have it look exactly the way he left it (ugly XP with hundreds of icons on the desktop -ugh - but that's the way he likes it!). And I want to click on my name and have it set up with windowblinds, cursorfx, objectdock, etc.

 

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September 19, 2009 2:29:27 AM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Does anybody have an answer to this one?


My other question was if I could install the software on the desktop but only for one user (me) and for it not to be available or set up for other users (my son). I want him to be able to click on his name and have it look exactly the way he left it (ugly XP with hundreds of icons on the desktop -ugh - but that's the way he likes it!). And I want to click on my name and have it set up with windowblinds, cursorfx, objectdock, etc.

 

 

if all is unloaded on his side and until he clicks: start > all programs > stardock

each account has access to the programs

each account can be user defined (with the exception of Iconpackager - it's kinda global)

if he don't want, he don't run it

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September 19, 2009 3:38:00 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Quoting Hankers,
Taken from Stardock's FAQ's -


Q:  I have a laptop and a desktop. Can I install the software on multiple machines?

A:  Yes, to a point. Only 1 copy of the product can be used at once per license. But if you want to have it on both home and work or install it on the road that is not only allowed but recommended. As long as only one copy is actively in use (someone sitting at the computer) at any one time, you are covered.

Those are the (official) terms of service (TOS) for Stardock's products.

As I responded earlier, I don't see any issue with what karmat is suggesting he will be doing.



Stardock FAQ'S

The part I made bold above is what's nagging me.
Let's assume it's the weekend, and the OP's son is at home on the computer,
and the Stardock software is running.  The OP then wants or has to do some work on his Laptop.
Wouldn't those lines then make that a no-no, aka. a violation of the TOS?

I ask this because I also have a Laptop and Desktop computer,
and occasionally my Daughter comes to visit, and uses my Desktop computer.

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September 19, 2009 4:51:31 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

from the WB EULA (there's one in each respective apps folder

 

YOU MAY:
1. Install and use one copy of the
SOFTWARE on a single computer.


2. Install a second copy of the SOFTWARE on a
second computer only if you are the main user of
this computer (home computer or laptop for
example).


3. Install the SOFTWARE on another computer only
if you change your main workstation. In such a case
you must uninstall the software from the old
computer.


4. Use the SOFTWARE via a network, only if you
have purchased an adequate number of licenses.
The number of users must not exceed the number of
licenses you have purchased.


5. Make a copy of the SOFTWARE for archival
purposes only.

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September 19, 2009 7:04:28 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

Sorry Bichur, don't take this personally, but for me that doesn't answer the question at all.
Let me see if I can put this more clearly, (Substitute "Me/I" and "My Daughter" with "OP" and "OP's Son" where appropriate):

Both my Laptop and Desktop have WindowBlinds, Sound Packager and CursorFX running when they are on.
My Daughter comes to visit, and gets busy on MY Desktop computer where the Stardock software IS running,
aka. she is "using" the software.
I, at the same time, decides to do some graphic work on my Laptop, where the Stardock software is ALSO running,
aka. I am also "using" the Software.
In this case, this means that on both computers the Software is "being used".

Keeping in mind that she uses my account, (I only have one account on both machines),
the question then is, is that allowed, aka. a violation of the TOS/EULA?
Or is it ok due to me not personally using the Desktop at the same time as I am working on my Laptop?
Or would a workaround be that I'd have to make her her own account (which I really don't want to do)?

I hope that makes the question somewhat clearer...

 

 

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September 19, 2009 7:41:47 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

You bought it - you can install it on one computer (pc)

You can install it on another computer (lap) if you are the main user

 

your daughter is visting - doesn't count - not the same as if you went over to her place and installed so it would be there when you visited

 

I think the FAQ is slightly out dated - the EULAs were basically the same, but have changed

 

Plus, an FAQ is just that - an FAQ

You're not bound by FAQa your bound by EULAs

besides, how the that FAQ fit with Multiplicity which is designed to control multiple computers?

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September 19, 2009 7:45:15 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

check the EULA I posted from the WB folder

it does say that you have to be the main user - it doesn't say you can only use one at a time

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September 19, 2009 8:02:51 AM from WinCustomize Forums WinCustomize Forums

I don't believe Stardock would complain as long as it's on a family computer(s) in the same house or on a laptop that is taken to work. As long as the software is not 'shared' with friends outside of this environment you should be within acceptable use of the TOS.

As the op's question has been answered this post is locked.

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September 20, 2009 11:34:17 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

The part I made bold above is what's nagging me.
Let's assume it's the weekend, and the OP's son is at home on the computer,
and the Stardock software is running. The OP then wants or has to do some work on his Laptop.
Wouldn't those lines then make that a no-no, aka. a violation of the TOS?

Technically, yes, this would be a violation of the EULA.  Are we going to do anything about it in this situation? No.  Most of the legalese in the EULA is simply to cover our asses.  Ultimately, if someone is violating it we would have the burden of enforcing it, and we're not about to go around checking to make sure that dad and son are not both using the computers with a WindowBlind applied at the same time.

The wording in the EULA is not there so we can be jerks to our customers, it's there to prevent someone from buying a single license for one of our software titles and sharing it with all their buddies.

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