Oh yeah and will the proxies I have heard about solve this problem?

The proxies aren't going to help your ping, they'll make it worse. The purpose of the proxies is to allow people who can't connect directly to connect to each other through the proxy server.

If dota works fine, why don't you go play it?

Warcraft network have a high latency tollerance.

Its like if you ask your character to walk to a specific location it may take up to 500ms before it actually do it.

In demigod, it is programmed around 200 / 250 ms. so your action will respond faster but you need to have bellow 200ms ping for it to be enjoyable or the game will spike.

Hahahah what about hello kitty adventure online?

The net_lag in Demigod is set to 350, so anyone playing with ping lower then that wont lag.

Taken from another thread:

Demigod utilizes a Peer-to-Peer (p2p) connection instead of the more common client/server architecture. DoTA and most RTS are client/server. FPSes are also client/server.

Basically in layman terms, as long as there is 2 people in the game that has high ping to each other, the game will lag for everyone. A common scenario is a game consisting of Singaporeans, Koreans and Australians. To us Singaporeans, we might see everyone's ping as below 200ms and wonder why is the game lagging.
The actual reason is because the Korean is having high ping to the Australian and vice versa.

This sucks so much i can't barely describe it. Damn right it's unfair! Basically if you don't have people in your region to play, you're screwed. Or, if you do have, chances are that some idiot from the other face of the world would join your game, and because it has over 1000 ping with one of the players in your game, it will ruin the game for everyone with lag. Peer2 peer is such a STUPID idea for massive multiplayer games that is no wonder that almost nobody uses. Most games are client\server based for a reason!

Now i'm kinda glad that Gamespot gave it 6, because of mp issues. It wasn't the pirates fault, it's the damn net code in the game that's broken. I wished more review sites gave it 6 or less, maybe they will learn from it and never do it again.

I so much love this game i can't even tell you, and this is why i'm so angry when i can't really play the damn game because of poor netcode design.

I guess DGs multiplayer works for you, yes? And you think if it works for you, than it works for everyone, right? Let me tell you something about one of the important differences between peer2peer and client/server:

-in a clinet/server game: If i have a ping of 1000 to a server (let's say a battle.net server), only i can't play the game, the rest of the players in the game are unaffected by my high lag.

-in a peer2peer game: If i have a ping of 1000 to one of the players in the game, then ALL the players will be affected by my lag, making the game unplayable for all, until i quit the game.

In general, good game servers have a very good internet connection, so even for someone from the other part of the world, he will still have a relative "good" ping (<300-500). But in a peer2peer situation, it's down to each user location/connection and how his connection interacts with each player.

Try not to be such blind fanboys, only because the game works for you (and your friends).

I wouldn't say that the game is playable for everyone in WC3 when one person lags. When that stupid little screen pops up and pauses the game, only for the guy to count down right before he can be kicked then go away long enough for his timer to come back up, and wait til just before you can kick him. I've also been in games on WC3 where the lag wasn't on my end but the game lagged for everyone, so I'm fairly sure that one person lagging in a game of WC3 does affect everyone. More then likely the fix for Demigod is fairly easy, different channels for different areas of the world, so put a channel in asia, US, so on. You can cross channel play if you want, considering that some regions may not have the mass of players as others but then you can stick to an area where the shared ping will be best. Also D2 isn't just dependant on one person's lag, in any MP game if someone is spiking its going to affect everyone.

Since about midday yesterday I've had no problem getting into games, its crashed a couple of times, but I just reboot it and it runs just fine. The biggest problem I'm having is that its only 2v2, and it will randomly select the map. 2v2 on Brothers is a snore fest.

-in a clinet/server game: If i have a ping of 1000 to a server (let's say a battle.net server), only i can't play the game, the rest of the players in the game are unaffected by my high lag.

Ever heard of warping, its very common in FPS games and its a side effect of one player having high delay to the server. If you enter a game of Quake Live for example and warp as hell Im quite sure people would disagree quite alot with that statement of yours.

I think you will see lag with a ping of 350.

Ping isnt all that stable, a guy showing a ping of 350 may very well fluctuate above the threshold creating small amount of lag, In my own experience though a guy with 350 ping doesnt lag the game at all unless he got some serious issues with his connection.

Try not to be such blind hateboys, only because it doesnt work perfectly the first weeks for you(and your friends)

Battle.net has to support Wow players, millions of them.

Many games that don't have such thing, use Gamespy or other service for mp. I've played games on battle.net, on Gamespy, on ID software servers, etc. Never had any of the problems that i have with this game in mp.

For all the fanboys out there, when you see the pictures below, do you think it's normal?? For example, did you ever see something like this in QuakeLive, when one player lags everyone with 1500+ ping and the game simply becomes a slide-show? Warping is not the same thing, not even remotely...

Pic1: before entering the game:

Pic2: In game lag fest:

I'll try and explain (again):

Yes, i know that's my ping with one of them (or two, or all). Because it's a peer2peer game, i may have this high ping only with one of the players, and the rest of them suffer because of this. How do i know this? In some games, in the same situation, one of the other players quit, and then the lag dissapeared. I was also able to play some games with low ping, but it's completely random:

-i join only rooms where the host has <150 ping with me

-the other players are from my region (Europe)

=> it doesn't matter. Sometimes works, sometimes it's a lag fest like in that screenshot.

To recap:

1. I was playing with players from Europe, two of them were right next to my country.

2. My bandwidh: 4Mbit/sec download and 1Mb/s upload, cable connection.

3. No router, no firewall, no sharing, no wireless. I'm the only one who uses it. I'm not downloading anything (DOH!).

4. I've played Crysis, Diablo 2, CS, Unreal Tournament 3, WoW, Quake Live, DOTA and other games online, with people from around the globe, and NEVER had this kind of problem with any game. I always played with maximum 150 ping with people from EU or US.

And pls explain me, why in the game's menu, do i see everyone with good pings (including the host), and then, when in game, the hell breaks loose?

One question...does this happen throughout the game, or just "spike" occasionally causing things to freeze?

In Europe our ISP's tend to be stricter when it comes to DoS attacks. Its possible that they are registering your transfers to other players as a SYN flood (if the game is using primarily TCP packets) and blocking you which will cause the large spikes of ping/packet loss, before they allow the connection to resume.

Its a complicated system, i am hoping one of the Network techies at Stardock will explain exactly what process the game goes through (relating to packets used, sizes etc) so i can better inform my own ISP and try to get things fixed.