RaY no longer exists, at least, all the active members are part of X now.

Fleet size needs to be Normal, IMO.
Build rate could be normal as well.. but Fast is fine.


Maelstrom is a good 3v3 map.

Razor's Edge should be in the 2v2 list not just 3v3. (It's only 20 planets, 2 lanes, small enough for 2v2 definitely, and how it plays as 2v2 can be very interesting.)


And I think fire/ice is an interesting 2v2 map.. but maybe I'm alone on that one. For Maelstrom and Razor's Edge 2v2 I'm sure those should be up there.



Thank you!

Exactly right.

Being good is being able to adapt to the situation.
If you're only good because your "perfect build order" fails without a 2/2 roid and a barely defended 2/2 desert near by.. well then, not so good are you?

It DOES suck though when one person has a 2/2 roid, an awesome 2/2 desert or 2/1 terran, and you have a 1/1 roid and 2 2metal volcanos by you.

Wow Clan BSG is in for sure.

We nominate Fulcrum for 3v3.

Fleet size sould be normal for 1v1, 2v2, and 3v3, but large for 4v4 and 5v5. (You need more ships for bigger maps, and giant battles are awesome, too.)

What do you mean by using pirates, yay or nay, and if so, what setting?. I didn't think there were settings besides on and off...

I don't think Random Maps should be included as they are very unbalanced.

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Hopeful Horizon

I could alert SF to this if someone wants me too, I am slitly active in thier forums.

Adaption my ass. You adapt to starting with an ice planet and a volc planet near your homeworld while your opponents gets asteroids.

Untill there is a way to script which planets spawn based on which planets spawn somewhere else, random is garbage.

I'd love to have a map that changes each time you play it. But it has to be even.

If there becomes a way to randomly spawn planets, then have the same planets for the other team, that'd work but as of now there is only a "random" function, and no scripting at all.

Tournaments are about beating the other team, not beating the surrounding militia or being forced to get two civ labs. I'll be making a lot of different map styles all with customized militia as well as mirrored planets.

I have no interest in an uneven game. It's absurd to even suggest a truly random map for a competitive game. Random elements are fine when they're scripted so it's balanced. True random for the sake of "variety" is not good for competitive play.

I agree with haeso as to it not being good for competitive play, but if people want to play it, I'm not going to say anything. As for random resources around planets and asteroids, that really annoys me too.

I just figured I would say that Anubis is representing HH for Braden and I.

Random is fine third, but imbalanced is not. I don't want a Separate ladder where our games are decided by skill with the totally random fluke of a shitty starting location costing me a game. Untill we have scripting to do what I mentioned, random elements should be avoided by competitive gaming entirely.

We must keep games even with each team having an equal chance of winning, with the only factors deciding a win being Race selection (I wish this was not a factor, but it always will be! keep that in mind) and in game skill. If your definition of skill revolves around "adapting" then realize this - adaption should be reworded as countering. You're not playing against the random planet spawns, you're playing against other people. The adaption should revolve around scouting, building appropriate amounts of ships to counter their ships, expansion, all of these things. But it should not be your ability to so massively outplay someone that you can come back even with a huge starting handicap. Nor is it to thoroughly stomp someone because of an ideal starting location.

Would you want to start without a vespene gesyer in starcraft just for "variety"? I don't think so. Be reasonable, understand that variety is good, and does help competitive gaming, new and balanced maps change the game a little, but keep to the fundamentals. Allowing us to play the same game, but have some different options and avenues of victory (and defeat). Yet better than variety for competitive gaming, is the equal playing field. As it is, of the most competitive games right now, the majority are FPS games. Why? Because it's pretty damn hard to imbalance a game where everyone has access to the same couple weapons and spawn locations switch periodically. The only difference is skill, not race(team) imbalance, not poor map design(Switching sides), no random deaths (There is no train to come out of nowhere and blindside you like starting with two ice planets in sins for an FPS).

If you want variety, and you want balance, push for real dev tools. Once I have those, I can make all the randomly spawning maps you want, and they'll be balanced. But untill then, choose balance for competitive gaming, it's what's best for us right now.