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Conner Smith
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no fleets/control groups on the empire tree?

February 5, 2008 2:10:52 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
i just played my first online game tonight, and i was rather frustrated because my fleets/control groups wouldn't appear on my empire tree/side bar... any reason why this is happening? i have the option enabled in the user interface settings. this worked fine in my beta version-

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Conner Smith
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Reply #1 February 5, 2008 2:13:00 AM
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i think you need to go into your interface options and enable pinning of control groups to the empire tree.

i think..
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Reply #2 February 5, 2008 2:16:32 AM
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Fleets are not the same as control groups. Control groups are a userinterface shortcut and fleets are smart groups of ships that know how to work together (you can control group a fleet if you like). You probably need to create a fleet by bandboxing some ships, opening the tactical menu and pressing "create fleet". This will show up in the Empire Tree if your options are set correctly.
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Reply #3 February 5, 2008 12:01:35 PM
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ah, alright cool. i didn't realize there was a diffence. thanks for the help, ill try it later today
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Reply #4 February 5, 2008 12:06:34 PM
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Fleets are all kinds of awesome. Take a bit of getting used to, but the added smartness is great
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Reply #5 February 12, 2008 7:13:58 PM
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So I assume then that selecting a group of ships and pressing Ctrl-1 is different then using the tactical menu and making a fleet? I hope there is a way to change Ctrl-1 to make fleet instead of assign control group. I thought Ctrl-number was a RTS standard to make fleets/groups of units that work together.
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Reply #6 February 12, 2008 7:21:11 PM
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Ctrl-number will create a group of units that move together, just like any modern RTS game. But creating a fleet is a different beast. It's a cohesive unit of ships that work together (not simply move together).

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Reply #7 February 13, 2008 8:14:58 AM
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I guess I dont see the point of making a group of ships that move together but dont work together. Making control groups just seem pointless to me. I checked the key bindings and I could not find a way for Ctrl-number to make/select fleets instead of making control groups.
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Reply #8 February 13, 2008 8:36:20 AM
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So I assume then that selecting a group of ships and pressing Ctrl-1 is different then using the tactical menu and making a fleet? I hope there is a way to change Ctrl-1 to make fleet instead of assign control group. I thought Ctrl-number was a RTS standard to make fleets/groups of units that work together.


You can use F, F to create a fleet from a selected group of ships. You can also assign a control group number to a fleet by selecting it and hitting CTRL+.

In very large mixed fleets, I sometimes find it handy to assign control groups to certain ship types. So, I'll have the whole fleet on 1, the Capital ships on 2, the LRM frigates on 3, the heavy cruisers on 4, and so on. Makes it easy to assign appropriate targets to the appropriate ship types when I'm microing a battle (my PC isn't too speedy, so using ALT+click to select all of a type of ship can be a little tricky when the framerate is low).
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