Trying my best not to hate "civilization" games...

jwburks

Join Date 03/2007

Trying my best not to hate "civilization" games...

But it's not easy for me to like them.

It's been a while for me since I've been here. I haven't played Dark Avatar in quite some time. I believe I quit playing because the game got aggravating. And a while back my girlfriend asked me to install Civilization IV for her, and so I started playing THAT dreadful thing again. But now I'm at the point where I'm just wondering who exactly these games were targeted at. Certainly not me. It ocurred to me that I simply cannot grasp the appeal of this genre. You have to either be extremely smart (which I am not, and I suck at chess, so that should explain a lot), have an extreme amount of patience (of which I have little), or just like to be angry (which I do not) and want to smash your computer or your own face. I've played just about every type of game out there, and I can appreciate everything. Except 4x games. But I do like Starcraft. I guess.

But I want to like these games. I paid for them, afterall. And despite wanting to smash them on a regular basis, I keep coming back to them. I want to win. I want to get good. But it's just not happening. And I don't know how you guys put up with the frustration. Some of you probably don't even experience frustration because you're just too good to lose. I don't know. All I know is that I suck and I don't want to anymore. Maybe I'm destined to be a loser.

Well anyway, the Civilization IV forums aren't very helpful, so maybe someone here can help. Or not.

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Mystikmind

Join Date 06/2004

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Manual? Why would I need the manual? Seriously, I glanced through it a little, but basically, just picked up the game and played, like I always do for 4x games.

well if i remember correctly, i was able to play Galciv1 first up, however my economy went south and i'm like "what the fxxx is wrong with this economy??". I had to get help because i did not know why the economy was shutting down on me each time i tried to play. It was shutting down Because i was building factories in all my planets early on, which is a logical thing to do but not for this game!

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Well, I did read up on the game before buying it, and Wikipedia mentions the way the economy works.

Even so, I probably would have seen the deficit I was getting, and dealt with it in precisely the same way I normally do anyway. Lack of money in these games is lack of money, however you are forced to spend it.

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but would somone who is new to DA and having not played DL, be able to have all reasonable questions answered in the pdf manual?

Definitely not, so in that regard, the documentation would be lacking. However, for first time players, between the tutorials and the .pdf manual, it's enough to get going. It was for me at least. The finer details can be obtained via this forum and the wiki. I don't think anyone is left without resources when information is needed. I haven't seen the Civ4 documentation so I can't compare that personally, but I believe the GC2 documentation is fairly adequate.

I had to get help because i did not know why the economy was shutting down on me each time i tried to play. It was shutting down Because i was building factories in all my planets early on, which is a logical thing to do but not for this game!

Yea, hehe, the rate at which you build is quite a balancing act in this game, always gotta ride the edge until you can get over the hump.

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