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September 17, 2006 6:30:45 AM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
Maybe I'm a total noob. I think I am.

It's so strange, in my opinion, that my capital world is always so displeased with my even-handed rule. But all my other worlds love me to death, approval is 90 to 100 percent. Average population on each of said worlds is between 20- and 30-odd billion.

Now, sometimes I end up with three or four worlds in the 50 to 60 percent happiness range, but no end of things I think will work ever do. Build a ton of virtual realtiy centers? Nothing. More stock markets? Nope.

I'm not sure that it does anything, but my diplomacy/influence scores don't seem to help either. Now I know a temporary fix; load up a few trucks and go invade someone. Or just shuffle people to more approving worlds. But my approval falls faster than George Bush's in a few weeks flat, finally evening out at a suitable low figure.

What factors combine to determine approval/morale, other than planetary improvements?

Any help would be kindly appreciated. Thanks.
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Reply #1 September 17, 2006 8:18:11 AM
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Just place your mouse pointer over the planets approval percentage number ( on the colony management screen ) and the game will tell you how it is calculating the planets morale.

The 2 main factors are tax rate and planetary population.

More population stops affecting approval% after a planet gets 26B pop.
Haven't heard of anyone getting up to 26B with 1.3 or 1.31 though.
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Reply #2 September 17, 2006 5:06:34 PM
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If you want to keep morale up, then keep planet population in check by limiting the number of farms you build. You need to balance your farms (i.e., max population limit) with your morale boosting buildings. If you get out of whack with that, morale will plummet like a hawk onto a mouse. The third leg to the equation is your tax rate. To raise morale empire-wide, lower tax rates. But then that can wreak havoc to your economy if it was designed to run on the higher tax base.

Morale resources also help.
Morale-boosting techs help.
Diplomatic/influence bonuses do not help.
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Reply #3 September 17, 2006 5:31:39 PM
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My tax rate is usually a steady 12 percent. Ha.

I rely on trade for all my income, about 1200 to 1500 BC per month.

I prefer playing as a trade empire, and I'm always the wealthiest.

Thanks for the help Kblore and Tertullian.
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Reply #4 September 17, 2006 6:28:29 PM
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1.31 is a lot different in the morale department so I assume you're talking about the latest version of the game. Your home planet is always the lowest because it has the highest population. It starts with 8b and quickly runs up to 12b if you're not loading colonists like crazy. Morale is a function of population and it's not linear so the more colonists you have on a planet the harder they are to please. Personally, I run my tax slider so morale is just above the red on my home planet. Once I have a lot of things like morale improving trade goods, morale mining resources, and galactic stock exchanges, I can get morale into the green. I used to build morale buildings like crazy in 1.2, but I haven't bothered with them at all in 1.31 because they're now too expensive with little benefit. I just go after Galactic Stock exchanges and build those. They kill two birds by providing a bonus for both economic output and morale.

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Reply #5 September 17, 2006 9:53:43 PM
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Personally, I run my tax slider so morale is just above the red on my home planet. Once I have a lot of things like morale improving trade goods, morale mining resources, and galactic stock exchanges, I can get morale into the green.


Even with the spices trade good and super low taxes (among other things), the morale on my capital world is yellow. I can't stand it, but I guess I'll have to live with it...

Now I agree with you about waiting for stock exchanges; however, if I find a tile with an approval bonus, I build a morale building there. Because the upper-tier morale buildings (Virtual Reality Centers) seem very much worth it. Other than that, I too wait for stock exhanges, and then load up on them like crazy...

Typically I colonize alot very early on, or move people from my capital to other worlds or I invade another civ. I don't see these morale problems until mid-game.

Then again, it doesn't really sound like a 'problem', more like normal fare.

Guess I'll have to deal with it. Lol
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Reply #6 September 17, 2006 11:14:48 PM
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Even with the spices trade good and super low taxes (among other things), the morale on my capital world is yellow. I can't stand it, but I guess I'll have to live with it...


Well, yellow is fine, unless you're trying to get the 100% approval that gives double population growth, you really don't need to worry at all, the only time you need to start doing anything is once you're in the red.
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Reply #7 September 17, 2006 11:53:02 PM
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Well, yellow is fine, unless you're trying to get the 100% approval that gives double population growth, you really don't need to worry at all, the only time you need to start doing anything is once you're in the red.


I heard somewhere that you should keep above 70% (overall, at least) once representative governments come into play (as I have noticed that the voting does deviate about 20% around the Approval). I suppose one or two in the yellow wouldn't hurt, though. As you say, avoid the red per planet, but keep in the green for the empire-wide rating.
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Reply #8 September 18, 2006 12:11:58 AM
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Just get the morale resources and morale TGs and you should be fine. Make the farm one of the last things you build on your home planet when starting a game.
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Reply #9 September 18, 2006 2:04:44 AM
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I heard somewhere that you should keep above 70% (overall, at least) once representative governments come into play (as I have noticed that the voting does deviate about 20% around the Approval). I suppose one or two in the yellow wouldn't hurt, though. As you say, avoid the red per planet, but keep in the green for the empire-wide rating.


Yeah, I go for a Republic the instant I research it. I never have more than 3 or 4 worlds 'in the yellow' and everything goes smoothly as far as elections. I'm just obsessive compulsive. If all my ratings could just one color, I'd be happy. LOL

Just get the morale resources and morale TGs and you should be fine. Make the farm one of the last things you build on your home planet when starting a game.


I'll try that. Thanks.

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