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July 8, 2006 2:06:48 AM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums
I hear that the mass of the universe consists of 90% Dark Matter which I believe is a very heavy substance which cold be with much work implemented into the game, Dark Matter refers to matter particles, of unknown composition, that do not emit or reflect enough electromagnetic radiation (light) to be detected directly, but whose presence may be inferred from gravitational effects on visible matter such as stars and galaxies.

I am not all to sure of objects that Dark Matter can form but seems to be an idea to pounce on make it a little more exciting. just a though what do other here think?
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Reply #1 July 8, 2006 2:07:37 AM
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Reply #2 July 8, 2006 2:37:45 AM
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i think that that is a god idea but i dont see how it can be worked into the game so try and come up with some other stuff ur giveing them some good ideas!
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Reply #3 July 8, 2006 9:12:42 AM
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I think its already in the game, we just cant see it!
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Reply #4 July 8, 2006 10:37:02 AM
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There is no such thing.
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Reply #5 July 8, 2006 10:52:00 AM
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Yes there is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Matter
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Reply #6 July 8, 2006 1:00:06 PM
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yep. WIMPs (weakly interacting massive particles) and MACHOs (massive compact halo object) were the primary candidates last i heard, however some theorists also speculate that dark matter may be regular matter, or an aspect of regular matter, that exists wrapped up somewhere in the other 7 dimensions of space.

Kudos to wikipedia btw!
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Reply #7 July 8, 2006 1:01:38 PM
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There is no such thing.


yeah! why would I post on something that dosen't exist. It exists but just cannot be detected without some gravitational effect on visble matter.
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Reply #8 July 8, 2006 1:04:51 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MACHO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weakly_interacting_massive_particle

there's two more. wikipedia is wonderful.
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Reply #9 July 8, 2006 1:08:54 PM
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i think that that is a god idea but i dont see how it can be worked into the game so try and come up with some other stuff ur giveing them some good ideas!


heh yeah! I am thinking of posting on Artificial Gravity as a tech required to travel long distances.
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Reply #10 July 8, 2006 2:09:17 PM
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It's supposed to be 90% dark matter.
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Reply #11 July 8, 2006 2:41:10 PM
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It's supposed to be 90% dark matter.


oops I can edit the post if it will make you happy
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Reply #12 July 8, 2006 6:22:44 PM
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if i'm afraid the whole dark matter issue is still just a theory. Its a theory that fits the data, but that is all that it is. The dark matter apple hasn't yet fallen on stephen hawkins' head yet.

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Reply #13 July 8, 2006 7:22:45 PM
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Ya, what if, just perhaps, the formula that estimates the amount of matter in the universe needs a bit of revision, instead of the universe? That would make more sense.

Same thing for 'Black Holes'. As the theory goes, if you cram enough matter into a tiny space, strange things happen...it just happens to overlook a simple property of matter: Matter takes up space. There's only so much cramming together that takes place.

Beyond that, there's a bunch of young theoretical physicists, looking for a research grant.

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Reply #14 July 8, 2006 8:38:50 PM
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Not really, it's generally accepted by the cosmologic community that dark matter and dark energy account for the "missing stuff" in the equations. Not only does it account for mass and energy, but it also accounts for forces and explains why galaxies don't just spin into dissipation. They say, "It's there, we just can't find it yet."
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Reply #15 July 8, 2006 8:50:41 PM
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this stuff could be used as a weapon no doubt.
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Reply #16 July 8, 2006 9:04:01 PM
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Possibly, but it's considered a "weak" force. You have to have *a lot* of it to do anything. A dark energy ray probably wouldn't do much damage, but it sounds cool. Should be a weapon in the game, "Dark Energy Ray, cost 15, size 12, damage 10"
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Reply #17 July 8, 2006 9:13:18 PM
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Well, luckily it makes up a huge portion of the universe, so having a lot of it is not a problem.
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Reply #18 July 8, 2006 9:27:58 PM
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Since it is difficult to detect, perhaps it could be used in a stealth tech.

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Not really, it's generally accepted by the cosmologic community that dark matter and dark energy account for the "missing stuff" in the equations. Not only does it account for mass and energy, but it also accounts for forces and explains why galaxies don't just spin into dissipation. They say, "It's there, we just can't find it yet."


So its a generally accepted theory? It is far from proven fact, like i said it just fits the data. heres another generally accepted theory: God exists. And lets throw that into the mix shall we; that hidden mass must be god. Praise the lord! Whatever you do don't tell the church!

heres another theory that is bugging me: Comets seeding life on earth. So the scientists have realised that the chance of life starting on earth without help is so small that they came up with this wonderfully amazing theory. Er, mr scientist: where did the life that is hitching a ride on the comet come from? Oh it came from another part of the universe where the conditions were perfect to allow simple life forms to develop, but unfortunately a cataclysmic event occured which threw out these super comets. lucky for us one impacted on earth at the right moment in the earths lifecycle. aren't we lucky?

I'm sorry, but just because someone is cleverer than you. It does not mean they can pull the wool over your eyes and call you an idiot.

I do not beleive in god, but my anti-bullshit radar tells me that there is something fundamentally wrong with some of the shite that these boffins spout.
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Reply #20 July 9, 2006 1:41:22 PM
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Well, look at what the theory is. It comes from a bunch of guys using mathmatics to explain cosmologic relationships. The math doesn't add up right now so they're making an assumption. Saying "it's generally accepted" does not imply scientific fact. It simply means it's what "most" scientists are using to solve the equations which, by the way, could be entirely wrong to start with. The theory doesn't carry a whole lot of weight right now, definitely not something to get too excited about.

There are plenty of bad theories that come from the scientific community. That's the beauty of it, you can take it or leave it since that's the nature of theory. Most get shot down. It's the minority that stand the test of time.
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Reply #21 July 9, 2006 3:13:41 PM
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How about mirror matter? It's literally the Bizarro World! We'd better watch out for Bizarro Superman!
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Reply #22 July 10, 2006 10:15:33 AM
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Whats wrong with that? also if their alot smarter than you shouldn't they have a bigger say on it, your sort of flaming the scientific community based on the fact you don't like their assumptions.
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Reply #23 July 10, 2006 11:13:30 AM
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Reply #24 July 11, 2006 9:49:09 AM
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heres another theory that is bugging me: Comets seeding life on earth. So the scientists have realised that the chance of life starting on earth without help is so small that they came up with this wonderfully amazing theory. Er, mr scientist: where did the life that is hitching a ride on the comet come from? Oh it came from another part of the universe where the conditions were perfect to allow simple life forms to develop, but unfortunately a cataclysmic event occured which threw out these super comets. lucky for us one impacted on earth at the right moment in the earths lifecycle. aren't we lucky?



Umm.. actually the reason why they believe Comet's seeded life on earth isnt because the comet had life already existing on it (microbes and such) but rather enough of them hit the earth to put water on the earth, which in turn gives way to life. The water hitched a ride to earth, not the microbes.
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Reply #25 July 11, 2006 10:28:55 AM
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why do you want to add something else that can't be seen? we had enough trouble with the precursor library.
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